Joy of Joys... Another wheel bearing failed today ! (1 Viewer)

[scotjimland]

Getting the van ready for the summer season, first time it's been out for a couple of months, so decided on a day trip to Felixstowe to check all is working as it should..

En route we stopped at Tesco's for some picnic goodies.. as I locked the the van I could smell burning.. walked around and felt the near side front hub, red hot..

so no trip today.. managed to drive home ..

Returning from France last year I had the rear offside bearing fail ..which turned out a very costly repair !

Rear Wheel Bearing Fail

It may well be prudent to have the other wheel bearings done at the same time.. will see what the garage says ..

Oh well.. it's only money .. but starting to lose faith in the old girl .. it's a black hole for hard earned.

 

[Just smiffy]

My tps is good for detecting heat rises, once in the mountains coming down I was surprised how hot the wheels could get from all the braking…

 

[Landy Andy]

What base vehicle?
Don’t get much bearing failure in my experience.

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[L' Hobo]

What base vehicle?
Don’t get much bearing failure in my experience.

My thoughts too unless they do a lot of off-roading?

 

[scotjimland]

What base vehicle?
Don’t get much bearing failure in my experience.

Nor mine either... in 50 + years of motoring, never had it on any other cars or vans..

it's a 2003 Ducato 2.8 JTD 65,000 ml

No off roading .. lol

a few failures here at low milages

Wheel Bearings | FIAT Ducato

First post on here so still fiding my way around. I have a 2006 Fiat Ducato 2.8JTD with motorhome coachbuilt body. Although it has only covered 23,000 miles I believe I have a dodgy front wheel bearing. So questions please:- Is this common at such low mileage? Where is the best place to buy such...

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

The prevalence for bearings to fail may be due to the chassis final purpose, namely carrying effectively a caravan about on it, so extra stress on bearings and general running gear
Mike.

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[gus-lopez]

it's a 2003 Ducato 2.8 JTD 65,000 ml

Very common. when I was buying a van back in 2014 & was talking at the dealers ,Hispavan in Antas here, they told me that it was so common they changed the front bearings as a matter of course when they got a van in.

 

[scotjimland]

The prevalence for bearings to fail may be due to the chassis final purpose, namely carrying effectively a caravan about on it, so extra stress on bearings and general running gear
Mike.

Its a Ducato LWB panel van conversion.. MAM 3,300 kg not a coachbuilt

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[the darkside]

Probably original bearings, grease breaks down overtime,hot cold cycles condensation and periods of inactivity all lead to the demise of bearings.have they ever been stripped cleaned and regreased? Probably not, they are 21 years old.

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[scotjimland]

Probably original bearings, grease breaks down overtime,hot cold cycles condensation and periods of inactivity all lead to the demise of bearings.have they ever been stripped cleaned and regreased? Probably not, they are 21 years old.

yes.. probably ..

that was my thoughts when I said I was having the others done at the same time .. peace of mind

 

[L' Hobo]

yes.. probably ..

that was my thoughts when I said I was having the others done at the same time .. peace of mind

Remember the good old days when the manufacturers fitted grease nipple's?

 

[the darkside]

We always moan when things fail,but if you stop and think how many years service the item in question has given faultless performance,although they always seem to fail at an inconvenient time

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[the darkside]

Indeed,I’m in the haulage and Hgv & trailer repair& mot
business, hardly anything now has grease nipples, prop shafts,steering joints and even kingpins are sealed for life on some vehicles now

 

[L' Hobo]

Indeed,I’m in the haulage and Hgv & trailer repair& mot
business, hardly anything now has grease nipples, prop shafts,steering joints and even kingpins are sealed for life on some vehicles now

It was amazing how many other things got checked when one was looking for all the grease nipples!

 

[scotjimland]

Remember the good old days when the manufacturers fitted grease nipple's?

oh yes indeed.. and it took a whole day to grease the nipples on an old Jag I had..

I still have a grease gun ..

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[andysam]

Remember the good old days when the manufacturers fitted grease nipple's?

I had absolutely no issue with crawling underneath every 6-12 months and things rarely broke.

 

[Beltie]

Remember the good old days when the manufacturers fitted grease nipple's?

I wasn't aware that wheel bearings had grease nipples. I've stripped and re-packed a few, but never seen a grease nipple.

 

[Landy Andy]

I’m still doing the greasing. Plenty of nipples on my daily drive

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[L' Hobo]

I wasn't aware that wheel bearings had grease nipples. I've stripped and re-packed a few, but never seen a grease nipple.

The grease nipples were in the stub axles and centre cap.
This grease used to feed the bearings.
By the sound of it, your probably too young to remember?

 

[pelican]

The grease nipples were in the stub axles and centre cap.
This grease used to feed the bearings.
By the sound of it, your probably too young to remember?

They were common on trailers with taper roller bearings in the 1970s

 

[scotjimland]

AL-KO axles have grease nipples .. greased them regularly on my Hymer

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[rod_vw]

Nor mine either... in 50 + years of motoring, never had it on any other cars or vans..

it's a 2003 Ducato 2.8 JTD 65,000 ml

No off roading .. lol

a few failures here at low milages

Wheel Bearings | FIAT Ducato

First post on here so still fiding my way around. I have a 2006 Fiat Ducato 2.8JTD with motorhome coachbuilt body. Although it has only covered 23,000 miles I believe I have a dodgy front wheel bearing. So questions please:- Is this common at such low mileage? Where is the best place to buy such...

www.fiatforum.com

3,250 miles per year over a period of twenty years! My opinion of vehicles with so low an annual mileage is that they will always be very prone to problems like this. These vehicles were designed for commercial use probably doing in excess of 20,000miles per year. Everyone that I hear of who does very low mileages each year experiences unexpected failures or wear patterns i.e. brake disc /pad wear, chassis / exhaust corrosion etc. etc.

 

[Beltie]

The grease nipples were in the stub axles and centre cap.
This grease used to feed the bearings.
By the sound of it, your probably too young to remember?

Kind of you to speculate on my age, if only it were true. Now you come to mention it, I can vaguely remember grease nipples on centre caps, but never on anything I owned.

 

[tacr2man]

Just be careful its not a binding brake , very similar symptom

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[scotjimland]

Just be careful its not a binding brake , very similar symptom

will keep in mind.. but it had new discs and pads all round last year

 

[pappajohn]

will keep in mind.. but it had new discs and pads all round last year

Maybe so Jim, but being stood for so long it could be a stuck/sticking piston.
I recently replaced both pistons in the rear calipers due to the pistons sticking after fitting new pads.

 

[CamperManLez]

Getting the van ready for the summer season, first time it's been out for a couple of months, so decided on a day trip to Felixstowe to check all is working as it should..

En route we stopped at Tesco's for some picnic goodies.. as I locked the the van I could smell burning.. walked around and felt the near side front hub, red hot..

so no trip today.. managed to drive home ..

Returning from France last year I had the rear offside bearing fail ..which turned out a very costly repair !

Rear Wheel Bearing Fail

It may well be prudent to have the other wheel bearings done at the same time.. will see what the garage says ..

Oh well.. it's only money .. but starting to lose faith in the old girl .. it's a black hole for hard earned.

Check the brakes first, it’s more likely that.

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[scotjimland]

Maybe so Jim, but being stood for so long it could be a stuck/sticking piston.
I recently replaced both pistons in the rear calipers due to the pistons sticking after fitting new pads.

up until tJan this year it was the daily driver .. so not sitting around for long.. but it's strong possibility even if only sitting for a couple of months..

hopefully if that is the problem will have all the brakes looked and serviced

will report back when fixed

 

[ljbarber]

Getting the van ready for the summer season, first time it's been out for a couple of months, so decided on a day trip to Felixstowe to check all is working as it should..

En route we stopped at Tesco's for some picnic goodies.. as I locked the the van I could smell burning.. walked around and felt the near side front hub, red hot..

so no trip today.. managed to drive home ..

Returning from France last year I had the rear offside bearing fail ..which turned out a very costly repair !

Rear Wheel Bearing Fail

It may well be prudent to have the other wheel bearings done at the same time.. will see what the garage says ..

Oh well.. it's only money .. but starting to lose faith in the old girl .. it's a black hole for hard earned.

Peugeot Boxer I had in 2010 had three wheel bearings go, and yes I can confirm they are expensive to replace.

 

[jumar]

Common fault on our Master....once had overheated binding handbrake...in its course it must of melted the wheel bearing grease....that failed shortly afterwards...I think..

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