Gas it or gaslow or safefill (1 Viewer)

[POH]

anyone got any ideas on the above ,got 2 calor 6kg atm going to Spain and would probably need a refillable type to be on the safe side.

 

[RobbieH]

Another vote for a double Alugas installation with external fill point

 

[Gellyneck]

They don't make the weight of the LPG inside them any lighter though does it, so your still having to lug around a heavy full gas cylinder.

Others may be different but we don't find them that heavy to lift in \ lift out and their flexibility works best for us.

 

[Lenny HB]

Others may be different but we don't find them that heavy to lift in \ lift out and their flexibility works best for us.

A full bottle even a plastic one is going to weigh about 15kg, sod that, wouldn't want to lift one up into my locker and I would have to empty part of the garage to get them in and out & would have to do it every 10 or 12 days when touring. No thank you.

 

[Gellyneck]

A full bottle even a plastic one is going to weigh about 15kg, sod that, wouldn't want to lift one up into my locker and I would have to empty part of the garage to get them in and out & would have to do it every 10 or 12 days when touring. No thank you.

Yip, for some that's an issue as said previously however it works well for us with the cylinders in their dedicated gas locker. We can also fill in situ if we wanted to but usually take out to our local fill point.
A bit of horses for courses dependent upon what works best for the individual particularly if not "big" gas users unlike yourselves.

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[Lenny HB]

it works well for us with the cylinders in their dedicated gas locker.

Our gas locker is inside the garage which makes it awkward, easy enough to get the door open to get at the valves but not to get a cylinder out, our garage is full to the brim.
Also relying entirely on gas for heating I wouldn't want to be in a position where I was refused a fill up. Been refused with an external fill point but got round it by telling them it was a tank.

 

[glenn2926]

It certainly wasn’t the weight of the cylinders that caused me to have an underslung tank. They only weigh about 25-30kg so not heavy. It was having to have loads of different cylinders when going between countries as they all have different connections. With the underslung I just have a little bag with the various adapters in.
This also gave me a very large locker that previously had two 13kg cylinders in it.
I have the fill point on the same side as the diesel fill point so can fill both up without having to move. I know a few have had problems finding LPG pumps but that seems to be a southern thing. We seem to be slowly getting more around here. However as soon as one crosses the Chanel there are plenty of places with LPG pumps. I would definitely have the underslung tank again.

 

[Lenny HB]

problems finding LPG pumps but that seems to be a southern thing.

Why do northerners keep saying that, never had any problems in the South East.

 

[glenn2926]

Why do northerners keep saying that, never had any problems in the South East.

Because the only ones ever complaining about lack of LPG pumps are southerners. Now either southerners are having more difficulty finding LPG pumps or southerners just like to complain. Which is it?

 

[Gellyneck]

They only weigh about 25-30kg so not heavy. It was having to have loads of different cylinders when going between countries as they all have different connections. With the underslung I just have a little bag with the various adapters in.
This also gave me a very large locker that previously had two 13kg cylinders in it.

You can do the same with Safefill, a bag of adapters, but understand your logic of additional wine storage \ transportation options.

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[Minxy]

A full bottle even a plastic one is going to weigh about 15kg, sod that, wouldn't want to lift one up into my locker and I would have to empty part of the garage to get them in and out & would have to do it every 10 or 12 days when touring. No thank you.

Our locker is external but high so trying to lug a cylinder in/out would be a pain, it was a struggle when I fitted our refillables as one was full so flipping heavy. We have a 'tandem' locker so fiddly to do but I got there in the end but no way would I want to have to keep taking exchanged ones in/out to put in full ones!

As an afterthought though Lenny, just think of the size of the biceps you'd develop!

 

[Spriddler]

As an afterthought though Lenny, just think of the size of the biceps you'd develop!

Not necessary. FLT's arm muscles get fully developed hanging on to their wallets.

 

[Artisan0]

oth work really wellanyone got any ideas on the above ,got 2 calor 6kg atm going to Spain and would probably need a refillable type to be on the safe side.

I use one 11kg Gasit cylinder with stainless steel hoses and a Mopeka under tank bluetooth gas monitor. Both work really well and I use the spare gas locker space for cables, tools and warning triangles, etc. Have used this system without problem in Europe including Spain for several months at a time.

 

[mikeg40]

Have 2 11kg gaslo and would reckon it has paid for itself now(just over 3 years) off grid mostly, Scotland out of season mostly, so do use a bit! not had any issues except I jammed a hose and it sprung a leak. Replaced by gaslo for no charge so happy with that. as for refilling, I find that it takes no more planning than a service stop and have found the apps pretty reliable

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

Another vote for a double Alugas installation with external fill point

And again here.

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[MacroMad]

Just booked my van in for Gaslow System, 1 x 6kg & 1 x 11kg
Less than £700.
Fitted by a specialist.

 

[Sapper520]

Have 2 11kg gaslo and would reckon it has paid for itself now(just over 3 years) off grid mostly, Scotland out of season mostly, so do use a bit! not had any issues except I jammed a hose and it sprung a leak. Replaced by gaslo for no charge so happy with that. as for refilling, I find that it takes no more planning than a service stop and have found the apps pretty reliable

We’ll be doing UK this year, so I’m sure we’ll need plenty of lpg for heating.

 

[Sapper520]

Just booked my van in for Gaslow System, 1 x 6kg & 1 x 11kg
Less than £700.
Fitted by a specialist.

Are you having an external supply (BBQ point)? We use ours most of the time.

 

[MacroMad]

Are you having an external supply (BBQ point)?

No, we use a Remoska, an Induction hob and a Microwave.
Never had the desire for all that faffing.
So do you have to carry a BBQ with you ?

 

[Sapper520]

No, we use a Remoska, an Induction hob and a Microwave.
Never had the desire for all that faffing.
So do you have to carry a BBQ with you ?

Cadac……not a BBQ (before someone jumps in) but does outdoor cooking fine.

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[Minxy]

Just booked my van in for Gaslow System, 1 x 6kg & 1 x 11kg
Less than £700.
Fitted by a specialist.

Diamond Dave Newell by any chance?

 

[MartinandBev]

just want to say thankyou to everyone who offered advice and tips, have ordered a single Alugas 11kg bottle for my Moho, going to have one refillable and one standard Spanish bottle as I still want the flexibility of having a bottle removed for BBQs etc etc

good price as well from Carbon Zorro of £352 delivered to Spain (€427)

 

[Orion]

just want to say thankyou to everyone who offered advice and tips, have ordered a single Alugas 11kg bottle for my Moho, going to have one refillable and one standard Spanish bottle as I still want the flexibility of having a bottle removed for BBQs etc etc

good price as well from Carbon Zorro of £352 delivered to Spain (€427)

I’d certainly follow the advice of Basildog (in post #105 and thereafter) to check the Alugas outlet connection to ensure you obtain the correct pigtails. Having now compared the GOK brand German KLF connector pigtail to the ‘standard’ U.K. l/h 21.8 ‘Butane Nut’ pigtail I can see why they wouldn’t be 100% compatible and are almost certain to leak.

 

[Richard Mason]

What size do they not work on? I was thinking of getting one for my 11kg bottles.

I think my are 11 kgs

 

[albouy]

Hi Tonka, got propane ATM Spain this year maybe France next so a refillable might be the best in the long run also it will work out cheaper to refill here.

If I was you I would fill,-up in Spain...my local supermarket (intermarche) in France sells gas at 112 per litre...ouch!

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[Jay9]

Have used Safefill for years all over Europe and the UK and never had a problem refilling.
Just get three adapters which are not expensive, the cylinders are lighter than any alternative and you take them with you to the next van. Gas level can be seen through the glass re-enforcement so no worries about running low.
Simple no-brainer.

 

[MacroMad]

Diamond Dave Newell by any chance?

Yes, he did a nice job at a very reasonable rate too.
I'm happy.

 

[Dwarfland]

I chose Gaslow for the quality of their hoses - s/steel braided ones rather than unsheathed Gasit ones.
I kept one 6kg Calor and fitted a 6kg Gaslow - both permanently connected. I've found one cylinder is plenty abroad where LPG refill pumps are plentiful but if caught out I can switch temporarily to the Calor, although in 9 years I've never had to do that and I only tour abroad.
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I’m looking into a similar set up and have a couple of questions. Do you have to manually change between the bottles? When filling the LPG one do you have to do it via a filler cap in the van or can you just take the bottle and get that filed? Thanks

 

[Spriddler]

I’m looking into a similar set up and have a couple of questions. Do you have to manually change between the bottles?

Yes, I do. I prefer that so that I know when one bottle is empty. I just turn off the valve of the empty bottle and open the valve on full one. It takes less than 30 seconds. There are auto changeover units available but you won't necessarily be aware that one bottle has emptied..

When filling the LPG one do you have to do it via a filler cap in the van or can you just take the bottle and get that filed? Thanks

The whole point of Gaslow and Gasit and underslung tank refillable systems apart from the fact that the gas is cheaper and you can fill anywhere in Europe (with three adapters) is that you don't have to lug heavy cylinders around nor keep disconnecting and reconnecting them with the risk of leaks.

 

[mikeg40]

I’m looking into a similar set up and have a couple of questions. Do you have to manually change between the bottles? When filling the LPG one do you have to do it via a filler cap in the van or can you just take the bottle and get that filed? Thanks

with mine and I'm sure most, external filler cap on LPG door, one hose into both bottles, never need to open LPG locker door except to check level and by now I know roughly when I need to top up

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[MacroMad]

I had a Gaslow system fitted this week, 1 x 6kg and 1 x 11kg.
Super job done by Dave Newall.
Dave would not fit the "Filler" in the door because Gaslow do not recommend it, It was fitted to the skirt.
There are content gauges on each bottle so you can keep your eye on them, i was told that it's best to turn off the 6kg bottle because you will soon know when the 11kg is empty and then you know you have 6kg left and you need to fill up.
The gauges also show FULL until they get to Half Full because of the float size.