Fancy a trip to Morrocco

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  1. Sundowners

    Sundowners Funster Life Member

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    We are testing the water at the moment - we are considering a trip into Morrocco next winter sometime as well as touring Portugal and Spain. We were wondering if there were any other funsters that would like to join us in Morrocco for a good time but also for moral support. We spent a couple of months touring Morrocco back in the eighties and would love to go again.

    You never know group discounts might be available on ferries, something to look into.

    This is not a pay to join group, just a group of Funsters touring together. If anyone is interested in this let us know, then we can decide when would be the ideal time for everyone, we have our own ideas but are flexible.

    If you have been before and fancy going again, your input would be invaluable.

    Nigel and Pamala
     
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    I am sure snowy and me would be interested.

    If I have not sold the RV might well be towing a caravan is this possible?
     
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    No reason why not John, we saw many touring caravans while we were there.. mostly German and Dutch ..

    Ray, Desert Detours, has also done all caravan tours..
     
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    We will be interested when more information and details are posted

    thanks
     
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    We have always fancied visiting Morrocco, will follow this thread with interest. :thumb:

    Brisey.
     
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    I have pencilled this in for next Feb, it has to be Feb due to family events. Part of The Zahora Experience.

    We did Desert Detours in 09.

    My current thinking is straight to Agadir ( we did not see with Ray ) and work our way back as temperatures increase. I had in mind Agadir/Essouria/Marrakesh.

    Camping round Agadir unknown.
    Essouria camping not pretty but adequate. Lovely resort town.
    Marrakesh excellent site, needs taxi to and from city.

    We saw loads of other places with Ray, but on the Yank basis "It's Wednesday this must be Meknes". A very good taster but debatable whether route march or holiday.

    I have the feeling that every day it becomes less and less Moroccan. So grab it while it's there.
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    That sounds like a good plan if it's the winter sun you are looking for, straight down the N1 Motorway .. However, by all accounts, Agar is a tourist destination, akin to a Spanish costa, not my personal choice but has all the 'amenities' of a modern resort.
    Large modern camping site on the coast. Atlantica Parc. http://www.atlanticaparc.com/ To the best of my knowledge wild camping has been banned on much of the Atlantic coast ..

    Also did the DD trip in 2007 and agree it was only a taster and not enough time to explore properly.
    Would love to go back and do the same route but spread over two months rather than three weeks and explore the coast south of Agadir.
     
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    That site looks good. €10 a day inc electricity. It's about 500 miles from the ports, so the biggest diesel spend by far is in Europe.

    Yes, months rather than weeks is needed ideally.
     
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    I would love to do this and start saving now if its on.

    Note to self, sell RV and 2 caravans clear credit card and buy nice Hymer.
     
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    Sounds like a good plan John and something to aim for next year, will soon come around also possibly downsize your vehicle could help if you sell the caravans and buy that Hymer:thumb::thumb::thumb:


    Kath
     
  11. Sundowners

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    We plan to spend about two months in Morocco (you have a 90 day visa on entry if British citizen) taking the following route after we all meet at Zahora, if any of you can't stay that long, you can travel with us until you have to leave, but of course you will have to make your own way back to the ferry, unless there are others that are on limited time and you can then travel together:

    Take the ferry from Algeceris to Ceuta, then travel south to Agadir, taking in Casablanca and Rabat on the way down. From Agadir head slightly north to Palm Valley and take an unpaved road across to a bitumen road that leads north to Marrakesh. From there we travel south to Ouarzazate and then onto Agdz. We then head east to Todra Gorge and Erfoud where we take a small detour into the Sahara desert. From there head north to Fez and then north again back to Ceuta.

    This is the route we plan and nothing is set in stone, ie there is an alternative route to Marrakesh if anyone feels uneasy taking an unpaved road.

    Our trip will be a suck it and see sort of trip, it will not be regimented AT ALL, obviously there has to be some sort of organisation i.e. camping places organised beforehand if there are several vehicles in the group.

    We believe there should be no more than 10 vehicles, and these may be split in two during the day for ease of travel. Each evenings destination will be given and you would have a choice whether you keep in a group or make your own way there, especially if you decide to visit museums etc. on route (we don't do museums, seen enough ruins to last us a lifetime) or you may do earlies, we don't, so you can leave early and meet up in the evening.

    We must stress that we do not and will not travel at high speed, we like to see and enjoy the countryside around us, where the road is good enough we run at 60mph, it's good for fuel economy as well. Again if you wish to travel faster then you are more than welcome to do so, then meet up at that nights stopover.

    When we went to Morocco back in the eighties we free camped most of the time and we know that it is now frowned upon so we would appreciate any info. that recent visitors may have on this.

    We think all of Feb and March would be ideal, yes you will get cold days and even wet ones (we had a lot of rain when we went in Feb.) but that's a chance we take, you will get some nice weather but it will not be 110 degrees.

    So if this has whet your appetite stay tuned and let us know what you think.

    Nigel and Pamala
     
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    Hi Nigel and Pamela

    We went to Morocco on our own in the winter of 2008/2009.

    We toured independently. We did go down a south to Agadir and stayed at Atlantic parc, the price quoted on their website does seem a good price, we paid more but was there at Xmas time. I would say that you would definately have to prebook Camping Atlantic to make sure you all could fit it, when we were leaving after a week there, there was a queue of about 70 motorhomes waiting for people to leave and for them to get in.

    It is very much a touristy 4 star sight, lots of dutch and Germans and French stay there for 3-6months for the winter. Our friends who stayed for 6 months 3 years running got their visas extended by Atlantic parc one of the services there that they run. If you want a safe base its great, large plots are available for RVs and some a plumbe in. This site is increasing in plots all the time. They now offer drinking water throughout the site which is great. Washing machines were expensive something like 8 euros or about a 5pounds. The swimming pool was too cold to swim in but I think they had use of an indoor one on certain times too. There is a beach in walking distance.

    As stated before it is a touristy site but probably the best one in Morocco, Agadir is 20km south of the site, so need a car or other transport to get there. There is a lot of building work going on along the coast there.

    We did find a quite site about 60km south of agadir which was just a base again just on the coast but with no facilities, and would be to tight to get RVS in.

    Essouira is a must, has a nice vibe about it.

    Marrakesh the site is nice and a taxi was about 10 euros for two couples. It is a must for a visit, but I think three days there is more than ample.

    The sahara , erg chebbi was wonderful and a ride on a camel compulsory.

    Dades and Todra gorges were great too.

    Meknes the campsite just outside the town walls was closed last year when our friends were there, would need to fin out if open again.

    Fes is great, but some people opt to stay outside of Fes and get the train or other transport in.. In the winter anything north of the atlas mountains can be cold, so by heading down to Agadir for the beginning bit is a good idea, it would also get people a bit used to Morrocco.

    We also love Chefchouan in the north as a first stop but not suitable for RVS.
    And not neccesarily in the right direction for straight down on the motorway.

    Rabat and Casablanca we didnt stop at so cant comment.

    Obviously Morrocco is changing quickly and some of the places for stopping at change.

    You never know we might be available to come to, but need to keep a bit fluid at the later, early part of the year, depending on our plans. But we might also just want to get away to the sunshine so could be tempted.

    Pat
     
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    At your peril !

    I'm still clearing sand out of bikes and MH. I would not do it again and risk more damage. If you want sand go to Blackpool, it doesn't get blown as badly.
     
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    No wonder they are running out of sand in the sahara with everyone nicking it:Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    How can you go so close to the sahara without going to see it - we must have been fortunate when we went as we did not have the same problems with sand - will have no qualms about going again, but if others do not want to take the chance, that is their choice.

    Nigel and Pamala
     
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    Hi Pat - thanks for all the above info. much appreciated. There is plenty of research for us to do before making any commitments.

    If you have the opportunity of joining us, would this be in your new travel mobile ,perhaps??? If it is, it will be a good shake-down trip for it.

    Nigel and Pamala
     
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    Hi Pam and Nigel

    I doubt the beast would be ready then, but who knows, but if we have a bit of down time waiting fo rthe box to be built we might take off then.

    I agree too you can miss the sahara, we stayed just on the edge of it on a small enclosed campsite and the walls protected us from some of the sand. I must admit we did suffer from some creaking underneath for a few months due to rubbish getting into our many leaf springs.

    But like you say it not an organised tour and people could either stay put or catch up or leave as they so wish.

    The great thing about Morocco is that it is so different with many different wonderful scenes opening up before your eyes. Its not europe though, and people must be aware of this before embarking on a tour.

    Pat
     
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    Morocco Board .Com

    No doubt you are keeping a close eye on the N African situation to see how it pans out .. hopefully the protests in Morocco won't come to much.

    Useful information site .. Morocco Board .Com
     
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    Ray regularly takes back broken awnings in his truck. It can go from dead calm to gale in minutes, which it did for us. But forewarned all the awnings were tucked away. We had the toilet window open one click, *mistake*. But it got everywhere anyway.

    If you think Blackpool is down market then try Lytham St Annes.
     
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