Yup know its been here before - but if you don't try you don't succeed - seems to be a new one.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105748
Arthur
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105748
Arthur
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Great to see that you make the effort but just a small point, make sure you praise the correct councilWe are on the Hawick Aire tonight. Have also used the one in Canterbury..
Our tactic is to write to the local council after our visit, praising them to the skies in the hope that some positive feedback will add a little when local government people network with others in the sector who may think it's a possibility.
Kudos to Kent and Borders Councils.
Dave
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Contacting an MP is unlikely to work either because the legislation which allows local authorities to create caravan sites (which is what aires are in UK law) is already in place - 1960 Act, Sch 1, Para 11 - so it doesn't come within the MP's remit.100,000 signatures needed to force a debate. In 2010 there were 170,000 motorhomes registered in UK. You will never get enough signatures on one of these petitions. There have been several before, all failed. Better to contact your MP, or find out which MP's are motorhomers or even caravanners and lobby them.
That's a red herring. How would they stop it, other than to object when planning consent were sought? What valid objections could they have to small sites for motorhomes only near town/village centres?Then you have the likes of the CCC Club and CC Club WHO will never allow it.
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They would fight tooth and nail if they thought they could loose business by a MH parking up in a small site in / near / close to their sites - Of course they would use the Planning consent card as they already have sites in / near / close to town / village .......................That's a red herring. How would they stop it, other than to object when planning consent were sought? What valid objections could they have to small sites for motorhomes only near town/village centres?
If only there were more like you ( I thank you, as would love to park up in an aire in the UK for the same costs as I do in France/Germany/Spain/Portugal )Signed
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The point is that most CC/C&CC sites re out of town, which is an argument for the "need" for aires. Aires would not be "in / near / close to their sites".They would fight tooth and nail if they thought they could loose business by a MH parking up in a small site in / near / close to their sites - Of course they would use the Planning consent card as they already have sites in / near / close to town / village .......................
SO NOT a red herring, sorry
Is the land owned by the council?Signed,commen sense says if you don,t at least try!!!!
I live in Deal, 9 miles from Dover,this little town is on the map for wild camping specially with the Germans who love our 3 castles,locals complain,????.
We have a perfectly good piece of land that would make a good airs,bring a bit of money into the town,stop locals moaning about large campers parked in the road,leaving rubbish behind!!!!
So yes I have signed.
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Let's just play the Devil's Advocate for a minute. There are lots of examples of us not adopting the French way - language, currency and legal system being the most obvious examples. Why should we adopt the French way where aires are concerned just because a tiny percentage of the population wants it? As was pointed out on Broken Link Removed, only 4 out of 28 countries have aires. Isn't that an argument for them adopting the majority practice rather than the other way round?I live in Deal,so it does not bother me,but I hate to see Campervaners get slagged off, it's a not in my backyard syndrome.
Just think it is sad we do not adopt the French way,the CC and camping clubs will present a strong lobby for no airs,taking money away from them, I try my best not to have to use there sites,as they are not only a rip off,not many are in a place that I prefer.
John is absolutely right. There is only one way to make progress and that is for people to put in effort. Petitions like this one are a waste of time.Lots of talk, but very few will do more than that and even fewer will get involved.
The only way I can see forward is self help. No one is going to provide Aires they need to be worked for and a demand proved.
From the petition wording "Spain, France, Portugal and Germany have these Aires or Stellenplatz,only the UK does not". Even if Sweden, Denmark and Austria are added to the list that is still only 25% of EU countries so the principle still applies - and I did say I was playing the Devil's Advocate4 countries,!!!! Sweden,Denmark,Germany,Austria, France,Spain,Portugal, NZ,Australier,America ,Morroco,Italy,might go by other names not airs,example NZ DOC sites!!!!,Morroco except the fact that they don,t have places,so open places,send trucks for waste,fresh water.
If I rack my brain ,I could think of a few more places,depends on local bylaws.
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Nic Nic says the the man who doesn't,t do rallies,but comments on them
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A great example on this thread of why there aren't many aire type stopovers in this country.
Someone has identified a site as potentially ideal but won't make the next step of contacting the relevant local authority to see what their position would be.
Why would MP want to stop at an Aire. When the can stay at a five star site and then claim it on expense,s,s100,000 signatures needed to force a debate. In 2010 there were 170,000 motorhomes registered in UK. You will never get enough signatures on one of these petitions. There have been several before, all failed. Better to contact your MP, or find out which MP's are motorhomers or even caravanners and lobby them.
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