You don't want to get caught with a tweaked e-bike in France (1 Viewer)

[Lenny HB]

You don't want to get caught with a tweaked e-bike in France, or one with a motor over 250 Watts.

France bans illegal eMTB tuning with fines up to € 30,000

French legislation now bans the practice of eMTB tuning. If an individual or retailer are caught modifying an ebike to derestrict its maximum speed, the offence is now punishable by up to one-year imprisonment (two year for retailers) and up to a €30,000 fine. France is leading the fight against...

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

 

[Realist]

Crazy what’s the issue.

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[Nanniemate]

If you want to go faster just but a scooter, they are cheaper than some ebikes….but of course needed to be taxed and insured.....

 

[thebriars]

Crazy what’s the issue.

Simple really, when does an e-bike become this:

 

[hilldweller]

.but of course needed to be taxed and insured.....

And a licence.

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[Realist]

Ebike is a cheap form of transport that uses battery power.

Authorities jumped on the band wagon and stopped them being upgraded as they’ll loose out on tax etc.

Me bike, scooter etc makes no difference as long as I can get from A to B cheaply as possible.

 

[Realist]

That’s a bike fuelled by petroleum not batteries so there is no similarities at all.

Simple really, when does an e-bike become this:

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[Paddywack]

Ebike is a cheap form of transport that uses battery power.

Authorities jumped on the band wagon and stopped them being upgraded as they’ll loose out on tax etc.

Me bike, scooter etc makes no difference as long as I can get from A to B cheaply as possible.

Right up to the point that they hit you whilst you are out walking at 30mph and you find they have no insurance?

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[Paddywack]

That’s a bike fuelled by petroleum not batteries so there is no similarities at all.

No, it is an electric bike

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[swiftsteve]

Right up to the point that they hit you whilst you are out walking at 30mph and you find they have no insurance?

Blimey, you walk fast

 

[ambulancekidd]

Right up to the point that they hit you whilst you are out walking at 30mph and you find they have no insurance?

If I could walk at 30mph i wouldn't want an ebike.

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[tuscancouple]

That’s a bike fuelled by petroleum not batteries so there is no similarities at all.

No you are wrong, it's a Harley Davidson eBike.

Mick

 

[Realist]

Owe well it’s a ebike so what it goes from A to B and it’s cheap to run and no tax to pay.

Just watch where your walking, easy.

 

[tonyidle]

Crazy what’s the issue.

The issue is that they are then no different to attaching a petrol engine or using a 50cc scooter without licence or insurance.

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[Realist]

Correct but it’s a means of getting from A to B cheap as possible and under battery power which is better than fuel.

Government's missing out on tax and money.

 

[thebriars]

That’s a bike fuelled by petroleum not batteries so there is no similarities at all.

Ooooooooh NO! Its an electric Harley.

 

[Oldbob]

Ooooooooh NO! Its an electric Harley.

It's an electric sludge pump !!

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[Clarky]

I ride a pedelec Kalkhof where the motor assistance is limited to 15mph.
obviously I can pedel it faster than that but the motor won’t assist.
It's a built like a German tank and quite heavy. You definitely wouldn’t want to be hit by it at 15mph let alone at 30+.
We all love a bit of speed but the 15mph limit for motor assistance seems sensible to me.

Richard.

 

[dalspa]

I ride a pedelec Kalkhof where the motor assistance is limited to 15mph.
obviously I can pedel it faster than that but the motor won’t assist.
It's a built like a German tank and quite heavy. You definitely wouldn’t want to be hit by it at 15mph let alone at 30+.
We all love a bit of speed but the 15mph limit for motor assistance seems sensible to me.

Richard.

Only been on a bike once since Gruissan, this was at Xmas when son Ben was home from Mexico. He wanted to go out on a ride one day so I let him go on my road bike and I went on Anne’s ebike (first time I’ve been for a proper ride on it). Boy was it hard work to go over the 15mph limit with the extra weight and gearing, with no assistance.
The problems that you had with your dish and then the heating was probably a blessing in disguise, forcing you to get back home so soon. Things are pretty dire now in France and Spain. Robert and Lis have done the right thing to leg it back -autoroute all the way by the look of it.
Sorry to have missed you at Coningsby last week. Hopefully, we will get a meet there in a few weeks if CV allows us. Take care.
David.

 

[Clarky]

Only been on a bike once since Gruissan, this was at Xmas when son Ben was home from Mexico. He wanted to go out on a ride one day so I let him go on my road bike and I went on Anne’s ebike (first time I’ve been for a proper ride on it). Boy was it hard work to go over the 15mph limit with the extra weight and gearing, with no assistance.
The problems that you had with your dish and then the heating was probably a blessing in disguise, forcing you to get back home so soon. Things are pretty dire now in France and Spain. Robert and Lis have done the right thing to leg it back -autoroute all the way by the look of it.
Sorry to have missed you at Coningsby last week. Hopefully, we will get a meet there in a few weeks if CV allows us. Take care.
David.

I was so looking forward to getting out on the bike while at Gruissan.
I had intended to get a good lot of miles on the clock. Had one quick ride to the Plage and round the chalets and on another day, intending to go over the 'mini clappe', I got part way to the fishing huts when a storm rapidly approached and I got back just before a downpour. I think I managed 8 miles.
Hey ho! Our time will come again...................but when?

Richard.
PS. Sorry for the thread drift Lenny HB

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[Neil Bedwin]

As has been proved in the UK, legislation already exists to deal with people who ride their bike (ebike or regular) too fast or dangerously. We don't need new laws just a way to identify cyclists.

 

[Paddywack]

As has been proved in the UK, legislation already exists to deal with people who ride their bike (ebike or regular) too fast or dangerously. We don't need new laws just a way to identify cyclists.

And them pedestrians, they're a bloody menace. They should all have to wear hi-vis and a helmet, if they dont we should be able to knock them down in our cars - its the only language they understand. The old ones are the worst.

 

[Neil Bedwin]

And them pedestrians, they're a bloody menace. They should all have to wear hi-vis and a helmet, if they dont we should be able to knock them down in our cars - its the only language they understand. The old ones are the worst.

Pedestrians tend to come off worst in any car/pedestrian interaction. So they don't need to wear safety kit as there is a great incentive to look before stepping out into the street. If they don't then they can't blame the driver/cyclist for being hit.

There is even a section of the Highway Code dedicated to pedestrians - Highway Code for Pedestrians

Presumably if there is a section in the Highway Code telling pedestrians how to behave then they can be prosecuted if they dont?

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[Paddywack]

Pedestrians tend to come off worst in any car/pedestrian interaction. So they don't need to wear safety kit as there is a great incentive to look before stepping out into the street. If they don't then they can't blame the driver/cyclist for being hit.

There is even a section of the Highway Code dedicated to pedestrians - Highway Code for Pedestrians

Presumably if there is a section in the Highway Code telling pedestrians how to behave then they can be prosecuted if they dont?

Wrong. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...phone-compensation-court-london-a8969731.html

 

[tonyidle]

Correct but it’s a means of getting from A to B cheap as possible and under battery power which is better than fuel.

Government's missing out on tax and money.

For higher powered bikes to be legal they need to comply with existing regulations as applied to motorcycles in terms of brakes, safety equipment, and lighting. Once they are manufactured to comply, in the same way that any vehicle has to comply, then they will be legal to use on the road.

 

[Neil Bedwin]

Wrong. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...phone-compensation-court-london-a8969731.html

There is always an exception to prove the rule but in this case...... head down cycling as fast as possible on a fixed gear bike with no brake. The cyclist got what he deserved and the pedestrian was found to be partially at fault or the cyclist would have been fined more.

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[Paddywack]

There is always an exception to prove the rule but in this case...... head down cycling as fast as possible on a fixed gear bike with no brake. The cyclist got what he deserved and the pedestrian was found to be partially at fault or the cyclist would have been fined more.

You are confusing two different cases, the track bike rider without brakes was jailed.

 

[Neil Bedwin]

Don't know where you are going with it....so giving up.

edit....read the article. Cyclists own fault for not chasing her in court. He also tried to ride through a crowd of people crossing the road. They shouldn't have been crossing but he shouldn't have tried to force his way through. The large sum was because of court costs not fines.

Yet more edit..... The judge even said that the cyclist would have been entitled to compensation if he had sued the pedestrian who was 'equally to blame.'

 

[Puddleduck]

You definitely wouldn’t want to be hit by it at 15mph let alone at 30+.
We all love a bit of speed but the 15mph limit for motor assistance seems sensible to me.

Richard.

And I wouldn't want to come off and have the bike fall on me (again).

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