Wanders from Glos are wandering again in France and Spain

[Lenny HB]

Flipping freezing in France we are in the south west only 15°

The plan is to make our way towards Santiago de Compostella. Somewhere we keep saying we want to visit and never quite manage to. I see there are a few camper stops in the city, all with good reviews. Does anyone have any recommendations?

We stopped in the car park by the leisure centre south of the city about a 20 min walk in.

As for dashcams OK in France and Spain, Portugal it's a bit grey, so say illegal some say just making data public from them is illegal. We always leave ours on.

Austria it was a €10,000 fine for having one and that was for a first offence. That was challaged in court a couple of years ago and I think they are now legal.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Flipping freezing in Northern Spain too! Had the heating on this morning. I’d keep heading south if I were you.

We are about to do the last 6k of the Camino now.

The dash cam is going to be a job for when we get back. What sort do you have?

 

[Wanders from Glos]

We've got one. It's in the glove compartment and still not installed. Not a lot of good there, is it

That’s on the jobs list for when you get back to Murcia then.

 

[lorger]

Our dashcam just plugs in to the usb or 12v socket, even I managed to wire it in

 

[Grianan]

Tim did ours - plug and play into usb socket. Halfords were a bit tidier with the cars but please don’t tell him …

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[Lenny HB]

Flipping freezing in Northern Spain too! Had the heating on this morning. I’d keep heading south if I were you.

We are about to do the last 6k of the Camino now.

The dash cam is going to be a job for when we get back. What sort do you have?

A KB R50 very small and neat as it doesn't have a screen, far more reliable that Next base ones we have had. Fitted a USB power supply under the dash.

 

[jumar]

That’s on the jobs list for when you get back to Murcia then.

Yep...I have many lists and priorities, had the dash cam in the glove box for 5 years..it was in our previous car, never bothered to fit in our current car or the camper..so this isn't on the must do list..
most likely.on the might do list or cannot be bothered to do list, which it currently is..

Must do list. Fit new fridge in camper.

Might do list...everything that's not on the Must do list.

Cannot be bothered to do list.. Fit Dash Cam

 

[Just smiffy]

That's a great suggestion from Just smiffy , we installed one recently.
I thought it was illegal in France, but as far as I know, it's fine unless you publish the footage, and the same is true in Germany (to name the countries I looked up for their regulations when I installed mine, ...unless anyone here knows better).
Only a judge would decide whether the footage can be used in a legal case.
In Spain, it's perfectly safe to use one for personal use, so if you get into trouble or want to avoid one, it's a good tool; perhaps only the authorities have the final say on its use as evidence. I know traffic police (Guardia Civil, Mossos d'Esquadra, etc.) have used it in traffic incidents.
As everyone knows, Spain is fairly safe for driving, but better safe than sorry.
Sorry about the little thread drift.

I have a nextbase in my van and car, they’ve been in them for years and I forget about them and have had no problems with either…
I always leave them running as they come on when I start up, I’m not bothered about the laws of the country and think it more important for me to prove anything right or wrong to protect myself in any situations.
It’s a chance I take as with anything in life while travelling.

I’m sure in this situation if it was illegal to show footage from a dash cam but not having one I would have told the police I can prove I came across the accident after it happened by asking if they wanted to see the footage then it’s not me distributing it but them accessing it….

But Wanders from Glos they are easy to install with the hardwire kit and just fiddly tucking the wires around the dash…

 

[Wanders from Glos]

I have a nextbase in my van and car, they’ve been in them for years and I forget about them and have had no problems with either…
I always leave them running as they come on when I start up, I’m not bothered about the laws of the country and think it more important for me to prove anything right or wrong to protect myself in any situations.
It’s a chance I take as with anything in life while travelling.

I’m sure in this situation if it was illegal to show footage from a dash cam but not having one I would have told the police I can prove I came across the accident after it happened by asking if they wanted to see the footage then it’s not me distributing it but them accessing it….

But Wanders from Glos they are easy to install with the hardwire kit and just fiddly tucking the wires around the dash…

Thanks. It’s gone on the winter jobs list.

 

[jumartoo]

Thanks. It’s gone on the winter jobs list.

Are you up to doing that job then?

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[Wanders from Glos]

Yesterday we slowly made our way to Santiago de Compostela to a camper stop on the camino. We even managed to avoid getting detained by the police. There is a park near to the camper stop and in between the showers we walked there to watch the sun go down on the spires of the cathedral.

This morning we had a lazy start before deciding to join the steady flow of pilgrims for the last six kilometres of the camino. We felt a bit like frauds, but in our defence we did walk the return leg as well. We hope to do some of the camino properly over the next few years.

Santiago de Compostela is somewhere we have wanted to visit for many years and for one reason or another keep not getting there. Burgos is another. Santiago was worth the wait, it is a majestic city. With tall granite buildings surrounding the centre.

The area around the cathedral is a maze of plazas and streets, with ornate buildings on all sides. Apparently Santiago is the third most important city in Christendom after Jerusalem and Rome. We enjoyed walking around the cathedral admiring the grand buildings and relaxing in the sun contemplating the master builders who created them centuries ago.

The cathedral itself is imposing, viewed below from the main plaza. Most of it was built in the C11th-C13th, although one part was built by Alfonso II in the C9th after the discovery of the tomb of St James, after whom the city is named.

Inside is a mix of over the top ornate and classical gothic. We had expected to pay an entrance fee, bearing in mind how much it costs to visit equivalent buildings in the UK or France. So we were pleasantly surprised to find it is free.

We loved this modern stained glass window in the C9th Basilica.

On one side is the C9th monastery founded to house the remains of St. James.

To digress for a minute. I have spent much of the last ten years studying the history of the region called the Mashriq, which encompasses Jordan, Syria, Israel, Palestine and the Lebanon. So, I was interested to find very visible support for Palestine. There were quite a few flags hanging from prominent buildings that must have been sanctioned by the city. Many had "Free Palestine" written in English or Spanish. Of course, in Spain that does not come with a risk of being accused of supporting a terrorist organisation. Apologies for straying into politics, but it is a subject I feel qualified to comment on.

By the time we had walked back we felt we had deserved a pot of our favourite tea, called Russian Caravan. Not another political digression. Do try it if you haven't already.

 

[Jane NotRog]

I love that modern stained glass window too. If I were ever to build my own house, I’d have some modern stained glass in it.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Are you up to doing that job then?

That remains to be seen if I'm honest

 

[Wanders from Glos]

I love that modern stained glass window too. If I were ever to build my own house, I’d have some modern stained glass in it.

It's great isn't it and so clever. We had to replace all the windows in our old house, and had a stained glass window made for the stairs, that ran the full height of the house. It was often remarked on.

 

[MichaelT]

Yesterday we slowly made our way to Santiago de Compostela to a camper stop on the camino. We even managed to avoid getting detained by the police. There is a park near to the camper stop and in between the showers we walked there to watch the sun go down on the spires of the cathedral.

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This morning we had a lazy start before deciding to join the steady flow of pilgrims for the last six kilometres of the camino. We felt a bit like frauds, but in our defence we did walk the return leg as well. We hope to do some of the camino properly over the next few years.

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Santiago de Compostela is somewhere we have wanted to visit for many years and for one reason or another keep not getting there. Burgos is another. Santiago was worth the wait, it is a majestic city. With tall granite buildings surrounding the centre.

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The area around the cathedral is a maze of plazas and streets, with ornate buildings on all sides. Apparently Santiago is the third most important city in Christendom after Jerusalem and Rome. We enjoyed walking around the cathedral admiring the grand buildings and relaxing in the sun contemplating the master builders who created them centuries ago.

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The cathedral itself is imposing, viewed below from the main plaza. Most of it was built in the C11th-C13th, although one part was built by Alfonso II in the C9th after the discovery of the tomb of St James, after whom the city is named.

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Inside is a mix of over the top ornate and classical gothic. We had expected to pay an entrance fee, bearing in mind how much it costs to visit equivalent buildings in the UK or France. So we were pleasantly surprised to find it is free.

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We loved this modern stained glass window in the C9th Basilica.

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On one side is the C9th monastery founded to house the remains of St. James.

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To digress for a minute. I have spent much of the last ten years studying the history of the region called the Mashriq, which encompasses Jordan, Syria, Israel, Palestine and the Lebanon. So, I was interested to find very visible support for Palestine. There were quite a few flags hanging from prominent buildings that must have been sanctioned by the city. Many had "Free Palestine" written in English or Spanish. Of course, in Spain that does not come with a risk of being accused of supporting a terrorist organisation. Apologies for straying into politics, but it is a subject I feel qualified to comment on.

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By the time we had walked back we felt we had deserved a pot of our favourite tea, called Russian Caravan. Not another political digression. Do try it if you haven't already.

Thete was a protest meeting in Dole on Saturday policed by 2 Gendarmes no rent a mob in sight.

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[Wanders from Glos]

Thete was a protest meeting in Dole on Saturday policed by 2 Gendarmes no rent a mobile in sight.

Really. So frustrating these things get hijacked both extremes.

 

[Jane NotRog]

It's great isn't it and so clever. We had to replace all the windows in our old house, and had a stained glass window made for the stairs, that ran the full height of the house. It was often remarked on.

Sounds fantastic - do you have a photo?

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Sounds fantastic - do you have a photo?

I don’t think I have one here, I’ll have to look.

 

[Grianan]

I’ve the picture of sunset over Santiago … so atmospheric.

 

[Jane NotRog]

By the time we had walked back we felt we had deserved a pot of our favourite tea, called Russian Caravan. Not another political digression. Do try it if you haven't already.

Rog and I differ fundamentally about tea. I drink proper tea with milk, he has Earl Grey first thing, and mint tea thereafter. We both have “sleepy” tea at night. Russian Caravan sounds interesting, but I’m not sure I want to add a 5th type of tea to Jones…

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[haganap]

Flipping freezing in France we are in the south west only 15°

Ha ha, dont know you are born..

Actually 4 dg here in Lapland with a wind chill of minus 6..
And its only September!!!

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Rog and I differ fundamentally about tea. I drink proper tea with milk, he has Earl Grey first thing, and mint tea thereafter. We both have “sleepy” tea at night. Russian Caravan sounds interesting, but I’m not sure I want to add a 5th type of tea to Jones…

That’s the problem carrying all sorts of tea. Fortunately Claire and I don’t differ, even so we have four types with us. Russian Caravan is derived from the Silk Road when tea was made on an open fire from the sweepings in the caravan. So it has a slightly smoky taste. It is very thirst quenching.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Ha ha, dont know you are born..

Actually 4 dg here in Lapland with a wind chill of minus 6..
And its only September!!!

Don’t tell me that we are thinking of going to Scandinavia next year. You must be using a lot of gas.

 

[pandas]

Yesterday we slowly made our way to Santiago de Compostela to a camper stop on the camino. We even managed to avoid getting detained by the police. There is a park near to the camper stop and in between the showers we walked there to watch the sun go down on the spires of the cathedral.

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This morning we had a lazy start before deciding to join the steady flow of pilgrims for the last six kilometres of the camino. We felt a bit like frauds, but in our defence we did walk the return leg as well. We hope to do some of the camino properly over the next few years.

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Santiago de Compostela is somewhere we have wanted to visit for many years and for one reason or another keep not getting there. Burgos is another. Santiago was worth the wait, it is a majestic city. With tall granite buildings surrounding the centre.

View attachment 1122008

The area around the cathedral is a maze of plazas and streets, with ornate buildings on all sides. Apparently Santiago is the third most important city in Christendom after Jerusalem and Rome. We enjoyed walking around the cathedral admiring the grand buildings and relaxing in the sun contemplating the master builders who created them centuries ago.

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The cathedral itself is imposing, viewed below from the main plaza. Most of it was built in the C11th-C13th, although one part was built by Alfonso II in the C9th after the discovery of the tomb of St James, after whom the city is named.

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Inside is a mix of over the top ornate and classical gothic. We had expected to pay an entrance fee, bearing in mind how much it costs to visit equivalent buildings in the UK or France. So we were pleasantly surprised to find it is free.

View attachment 1122020View attachment 1122021

We loved this modern stained glass window in the C9th Basilica.

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On one side is the C9th monastery founded to house the remains of St. James.

View attachment 1122043

To digress for a minute. I have spent much of the last ten years studying the history of the region called the Mashriq, which encompasses Jordan, Syria, Israel, Palestine and the Lebanon. So, I was interested to find very visible support for Palestine. There were quite a few flags hanging from prominent buildings that must have been sanctioned by the city. Many had "Free Palestine" written in English or Spanish. Of course, in Spain that does not come with a risk of being accused of supporting a terrorist organisation. Apologies for straying into politics, but it is a subject I feel qualified to comment on.

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By the time we had walked back we felt we had deserved a pot of our favourite tea, called Russian Caravan. Not another political digression. Do try it if you haven't already.

Can I just say I very much enjoy your posts. Very informative, well written and great you don’t go on about how little you pay, or don’t for aires, which seems to consume some others.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Can I just say I very much enjoy your posts. Very informative, well written and great you don’t go on about how little you pay, or don’t for aires, which seems to consume some others.

That’s very kind of you to say, thank you.

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[Barriesimpson]

Rog and I differ fundamentally about tea. I drink proper tea with milk, he has Earl Grey first thing, and mint tea thereafter. We both have “sleepy” tea at night. Russian Caravan sounds interesting, but I’m not sure I want to add a 5th type of tea to Jones…

We do not drink tea for the simple reason that coffee exists, and is much better

 

[Wanders from Glos]

We do not drink tea for the simple reason that coffee exists, and is much better

Yeah yeah, that’s just a lack of class.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

We had a relatively slow start this morning. I say we, Claire went for a run in the park near here. So really I did.

We wanted to head to the Galician North coast and decided to take jumar ‘s advice and head for Cathedral Bay. We toyed with going to a camper stop, but in the end decided to check the parking on P4N first.

We are so glad we took Judith’s advice, this place is breathtaking. It’s a lot like a quiet and sunny Cornwall. It is probably very wild in bad weather. Where we are parked is for motorhomes and whilst there are maybe 15 here and there are no services, the views and proximity to the sea are as good as it gets.

Anyway, here are some pictures of rocks and sea, hopefully you get the idea. We took so many pictures this is just a few. It is hard to capture how beautiful it is.

After walking to the outskirts of Foz, we retraced our steps partly along a beach to stop at the only bar, across the road from where we are parked.

The tide was coming in today. So over a beer we took a picture of the tide times and studied them to see when we could walk on the beach between the rocks. It was very confusing because it appeared the tide went out three times a day and we didn’t think that was possible. After a while we realised we were studying the bus timetable in Galician…. Doh. We didn’t even know there is a Galician language, a bit like a cross between Portuguese and Spanish. Which is logical.

Armed with the correct tide times it appears the tide will be out at midnight and just after noon. Hopefully that means it will be going out first thing tomorrow morning.

 

[MichaelT]

We had a relatively slow start this morning. I say we, Claire went for a run in the park near here. So really I did.

We wanted to head to the Galician North coast and decided to take jumar ‘s advice and head for Cathedral Bay. We toyed with going to a camper stop, but in the end decided to check the parking on P4N first.

We are so glad we took Judith’s advice, this place is breathtaking. It’s a lot like a quiet and sunny Cornwall. It is probably very wild in bad weather. Where we are parked is for motorhomes and whilst there are maybe 15 here and there are no services, the views and proximity to the sea are as good as it gets.

Anyway, here are some pictures of rocks and sea, hopefully you get the idea. We took so many pictures this is just a few. It is hard to capture how beautiful it is.

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After walking to the outskirts of Foz, we retraced our steps partly along a beach to stop at the only bar, across the road from where we are parked.

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The tide was coming in today. So over a beer we took a picture of the tide times and studied them to see when we could walk on the beach between the rocks. It was very confusing because it appeared the tide went out three times a day and we didn’t think that was possible. After a while we realised we were studying the bus timetable in Galician…. Doh. We didn’t even know there is a Galician language, a bit like a cross between Portuguese and Spanish. Which is logical.

Armed with the correct tide times it appears the tide will be out at midnight and just after noon. Hopefully that means it will be going out first thing tomorrow morning.

Can u share the site details please, looks great.

 

[Peavy]

a bit like a cross between Portuguese and Spanish

Could be defined as a language very similar to Portuguese but with a more Spanish accent (and the expansion of Portuguese language was from north to south, so Galicia is the origin of the Portuguese language).
You already probably know it, but we have five official languages in Spain:
Spanish, Catalan/Valencian, Galician, Basque and Aranese.

by the way, fantastic choice of beer, Mahou and Alhambra

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