Time to license mobility scooters...?

[MattR]

Grant Shapps hasn't yet called for mobility scooters to be licenced, taxed and speed regulated.

After yet another incident where a mobility scooter driver has injured a pedestrian, isn't it time for a them to be regulated?

It's clear that many users require them to help access and participate more widely in every day life events but there are increasing reports of abled body folk using them to avoid walking because they're "lazy”.

Boy, 3, rushed to hospital after being hit by a MOBILITY SCOOTER (and the police are trying to catch the grey haired drivers who left the injured child after they hit him with their scooter) https://mol.im/a/11124125

 

[Peter and Julie]

Grant Shapps hasn't yet called for mobility scooters to be licenced, taxed and speed regulated.

After yet another incident where a mobility scooter driver has injured a pedestrian, isn't it time for a them to be regulated?

It's clear that many users require them to help access and participate more widely in every day life events but there are increasing reports of abled body folk using them to avoid walking because they're "lazy”.

Boy, 3, rushed to hospital after being hit by a MOBILITY SCOOTER (and the police are trying to catch the grey haired drivers who left the injured child after they hit him with their scooter) https://mol.im/a/11124125

Agree! Anybody with a mode of transport should be properly insured and have identifying markers at all times.....

 

[TinaLes]

Luckily The Little Boy will be OK, it could have been so much worse at his age & size.
Cant believe the mobility Scooter guy did not stop and try and help the boy, what an Ars....e!, hope the catch him.
Lets not forget the danger placed on pedestrians by those Adult E Scooters, IMV it was stupid to legalise them for use on public roads, many are not restricted to 14MPH, you can easily buy a fast one online.
LES

 

[Wildbill]

Pause bikes should have compulsory insurance
Bill

 

[MattR]

Luckily The Little Boy will be OK, it could have been so much worse at his age & size.
Cant believe the mobility Scooter guy did not stop and try and help the boy, what an Ars....e!, hope the catch him.
Lets not forget the danger placed on pedestrians by those Adult E Scooters, IMV it was stupid to legalise them for use on public roads, many are not restricted to 14MPH, you can easily buy a fast one online.
LES

Some folk are using them as alternatives to cars.

Apparently, they should only be for those with disabilities but the second market is busy with folk selling off scooters from recently departed family members and they're being snapped up by able-bodied users.

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[Folkranger]

Just back from Netherlands. There are loads more over there. I take it that people are used to cycling and so take to these when less able. There are massive ones and they all have one thing in common, they travel as fast as they would when on a bike. They use both the bike tracks and the footpaths (which bikes don't). They even travel on the roads.

I saw one old guy (lot younger than me, ahem) in a smallish department store. He had one of the biggest types and could just squeeze along the aisles. He had other shoppers running for mercy every time he moved.

 

[Blackadder]

Lets not forget the danger placed on pedestrians by those Adult E Scooters, IMV it was stupid to legalise them for use on public roads, many are not restricted to 14MPH, you can easily buy a fast one online.
LES

Couldn't agree more! The things are silent and deadly even at 10 mph. In China they all seemed to have some form of buzzer which works as soon as it moves - at least you get some warning even if you don't know exactly where it's coming from!
As for the really fast ones which you can buy online, I thought these were still illegal on public roads and especially pavements. I thought that only the ones you can hire from local authorities could be used on pavements. Or am I out of date again?

 

[Plumb]

Cycle’s and two wheel scooters should also be insured and speed regulated on footpaths.

 

[David and Sally]

Agree! Anybody with a mode of transport should be properly insured and have identifying markers at all times.....

Like what he said

 

[bigwood]

The issue of bikes and scooters being licensed is a good idea in theory but I think not very practical if only for the matter of overseeing the registrations . DVLA are struggling as it is. Also who is going to stop the nutter that rides his scooter up the middle of our avenue swearing at the motorists and pedestrians. Walking in the road is safer than being on the pavement because of bikes and scooters.

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[The Coops]

I seem to recollect somewhere in the dim and distant past reading that they are/should be restricted to 8mph max otherwise they are illegal, but who is going to police it? Headlines *I was only doing 9 mph when Police pulled me and booked me* said Joe Pensioner aged 68, *Have they got nothing better to do than persecute pensioners!*

 

[gus-lopez]

As for the really fast ones which you can buy online, I thought these were still illegal on public roads and especially pavements

Private ones are illegal anywhere.
Get stopped it is no insurance 6points £440 fine,incorrect licence£220+ points, plus host of other offences,+ court costs and victim surcharge. 2 a couple of weeks back in court near Brighton amounted to £1500/1600 each.
Far better dealing crack or methamphetamine as that was only £80 or assault for £120.

thought that only the ones you can hire from local authorities could be used on pavements.

They are the only legal ones.

 

[gus-lopez]

I seem to recollect somewhere in the dim and distant past reading that they are/should be restricted to 8mph max otherwise they are illegal, but who is going to police it? Headlines *I was only doing 9 mph when Police pulled me and booked me* said Joe Pensioner aged 68, *Have they got nothing better to do than persecute pensioners!*

No 8mph is in the road. On pavements in shops ,etc it is 4mph.

 

[Verteuil Man]

I was just going to say that the speed of mobility scooters is already restricted.

It's just some grumpy cyclists having a dig after yesterday.

 

[MattR]

Cycle’s and two wheel scooters should also be insured and speed regulated on footpaths

They shouldn't be on footpaths.

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[stevewagner]

Grant Shapps hasn't yet called for mobility scooters to be licenced, taxed and speed regulated.

After yet another incident where a mobility scooter driver has injured a pedestrian, isn't it time for a them to be regulated?

It's clear that many users require them to help access and participate more widely in every day life events but there are increasing reports of abled body folk using them to avoid walking because they're "lazy”.

Boy, 3, rushed to hospital after being hit by a MOBILITY SCOOTER (and the police are trying to catch the grey haired drivers who left the injured child after they hit him with their scooter) https://mol.im/a/11124125

Class 3 mobility scooters do have to be registered

 

[MattR]

I was just going to say that the speed of mobility scooters is already restricted.

It's just some grumpy cyclists having a dig after yesterday.

What grumpy cyclists are you thinking of?

Mobility scooters might be regulated but that doesn't stop some exceeding the authorized speeds or hitting young children and driving off...

 

[Verteuil Man]

What grumpy cyclists are you thinking of?

Mobility scooters might be regulated but that doesn't stop some exceeding the authorized speeds or hitting young children and driving off...

4 mph is no speed to be on the road and not all scooters are the same. Some are described as pavement scooters.

The grumpy cyclists are the 9nes getting very aggressive yesterday at the suggestion that bikes should be registered and insured. I quite the thread after half an hour because it was getting pointless.

 

[PaulyP]

Some folk are using them as alternatives to cars.

Apparently, they should only be for those with disabilities but the second market is busy with folk selling off scooters from recently departed family members and they're being snapped up by able-bodied users.

One goes past my house regularly, has his golf clubs on the back !

Would love know what his disabilities are.

 

[David and Sally]

One goes past my house regularly, has his golf clubs on the back !

Would love know what his disabilities are.

Putting Can't take his scooter on the green.

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[Just smiffy]

I bet some old boy wished his scooter went a bit faster to get away from a madman chasing after him with a knife…..

 

[chrisgreen]

Some folk are using them as alternatives to cars.

Apparently, they should only be for those with disabilities but the second market is busy with folk selling off scooters from recently departed family members and they're being snapped up by able-bodied users.

have you proof of this as it's the first iv heard of it, and I agree mobility scooters should be registered and insured, both my scooters are insured.

 

[PaulyP]

Putting Can't take his scooter on the green.

He must also have a handicap

 

[Plumb]

They shouldn't be on footpaths.

Oh ! Ok I’ll tell ‘em

 

[Plumb]

One goes past my house regularly, has his golf clubs on the back !

Would love know what his disabilities are.

Dunno he’s obviously got an handicap

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[Plumb]

He must also have a handicap

Sorry I seem to have peed in your pot

 

[Plumb]

The issue of bikes and scooters being licensed is a good idea in theory but I think not very practical if only for the matter of overseeing the registrations . DVLA are struggling as it is. Also who is going to stop the nutter that rides his scooter up the middle of our avenue swearing at the motorists and pedestrians. Walking in the road is safer than being on the pavement because of bikes and scooters.

Well no one’s going to oversee anything let’s face it it’s every man for themselves! It complete anarchy out there

 

[MattR]

4 mph is no speed to be on the road and not all scooters are the same. Some are described as pavement scooters.

The grumpy cyclists are the 9nes getting very aggressive yesterday at the suggestion that bikes should be registered and insured. I quite the thread after half an hour because it was getting pointless.

I must have missed those posts; I was too busy waiting for a novel solution that every other country in the world has failed to find so far to make it viable for bikes to display an identification tag.

Don't worry about leaving the thread early; there will be many more in the future.

 

[georgio]

Plenty for sale on ebay, could be handy for a short trip to the shops. Cops are unlikely to stop you unless you drive down a motorway or do something stupid or when the the cop sidles up and says Where do you think your going just reply no I think its too early to start snowing, he will soon get back in his comfortable car. I got into the path of one only today in a shopping mall, she was going a bit too quick I thought.Licencing them might be a good idea before every Tom dick and Harry gets one and cause mayhem. There is also the tax element as well which should then go to facilties for motorhomers.

 

[Verteuil Man]

One goes past my house regularly, has his golf clubs on the back !

Would love know what his disabilities are.

You do not have to be disabled to have a mobility scooter. You do not have to qualify to get one. Mostly they are purchased by the person using it at their own expense. I use one because I have lower body vascular issues which meant that I had a femoral artery bypass on my right leg. Blood pressure in both legs is 60% of normal. If I walk more that 250 mts I get claudication causing numbness and extreme tiredness in the legs.

I have a mobility scooter which breaks down into easily to handle lumps that can go into my car. I cannot hop on and off pavements because of curbs and travelling on the road at 4 mph would be foolhardy.

Mrs B and I own e-bikes which we use when in Spain and France because they have good cycle route and Spain extremely wide roads in towns.

Travelling on the roads in the UK is a dangerous business. I worked 0n the h9ghways for 40 years and know what can happen. A bit like the Police, Fire, Ambulance and recovery guys you see things that cannot be unseen.

Tolerance is needed by all on all side.

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