Timber garage plans in, my poem will swing it this time.

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Refused me the council did but the architect chap thinks with his plans will get permission so they have gone in.

All sorts of thought to try and pass it, reclaimed brick base, timber painted in heritage green same as sash windows in house.

Sash Windows in garage, can be taken down so not permanent, trees planted to screen one side.

Last chance this before the van falls to pieces up here on the moors.

The weather is horrendous in winter and that doesn't do justice to the word horrendous.
It rains and rains and rains at times and the blizzards. Wow.
The beauty of living in an AONB. Ive included a Christmas drink for them too, no bribery intended, hope they see the funny side.

This should swing it.


So come on you planners, let's get it passed
For if its refused, this van is our last
There is no storage, for many a mile
All you can see is sheep, grouse and a stile

I'm pinning my hopes on this season of joy
And hoping you now say ''it's passed my young boy''
That poor van gets battered and smashed by the weather
Let's now protect it, from grouse shit and heather

This is the last time, you'll hear from me
So Planning , consider it, so carefully
For if its refused again and again
A bit pile of metal, cos of storms and the rain

The winds are too vicious, the van it is rocking, I cannot stand up, the storms they are shock It's
It's raining upwards, how can that be
surely that defies gravity.

Merry Christmas you planners, now enjoy the rum
If you refuse me this time, you can stick it right up your bum.

Yours hopefully.


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I would of submitted those pictures with the application plus a photoshoped set with an "artist's impression" of your proposed "field shelter" / "tractor shed" or garage
 
TheBig1 said:
I would of submitted those pictures with the application plus a photoshoped set with an "artist's impression" of your proposed "field shelter" / "tractor shed" or garage
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yes impression was submitted and photos, the planners came for a site visit today too.
 
CazPaul said:
yes impression was submitted and photos, the planners came for a site visit today too.
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Good luck mate,,,,, You never know, the Krimble spirit may be with them x:-)

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We have had a similar problem. The planners first query was' why so tall', I had already explained the height of the motorhome. It has taken 6 months but at last we have planning. Now buildings control want a structural engineers report as the building is long and narrow and the wind might make it unstable. We live on low lying, very sheltered land, but if that's what they need. It won't be going under cover this winter as the land is too boggy now.
Good luck with the planners.
 
CazPaul said:
Refused me the council did but the architect chap thinks with his plans will get permission so they have gone in.

All sorts of thought to try and pass it, reclaimed brick base, timber painted in heritage green same as sash windows in house.

Sash Windows in garage, can be taken down so not permanent, trees planted to screen one side.

Last chance this before the van falls to pieces up here on the moors.

The weather is horrendous in winter and that doesn't do justice to the word horrendous.
It rains and rains and rains at times and the blizzards. Wow.
The beauty of living in an AONB. Ive included a Christmas drink for them too, no bribery intended, hope they see the funny side.

This should swing it.


So come on you planners, let's get it passed
For if its refused, this van is our last
There is no storage, for many a mile
All you can see is sheep, grouse and a stile

I'm pinning my hopes on this season of joy
And hoping you now say ''it's passed my young boy''
That poor van gets battered and smashed by the weather
Let's now protect it, from grouse shit and heather

This is the last time, you'll hear from me
So Planning , consider it, so carefully
For if its refused again and again
A bit pile of metal, cos of storms and the rain

The winds are too vicious, the van it is rocking, I cannot stand up, the storms they are shock It's
It's raining upwards, how can that be
surely that defies gravity.

Merry Christmas you planners, now enjoy the rum
If you refuse me this time, you can stick it right up your bum.

Yours hopefully.


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Love the approach

We’ve had plans submitted since March and still awaiting a decision

Best of luck
 
Robert Clark said:
Love the approach

We’ve had plans submitted since March and still awaiting a decision

Best of luck
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Sounds like there are a few of us in the same position. Good luck to everyone with plans in

I thought rules had been relaxed but obviously not, they see really strict especially around here.

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Contacted planning department, it's now gone to landscaping department for their input then everything will be collated together for a final meeting.

It was explained to me again that this is a AONB and they don't want anything impacting on the area, it doesn't sound good, the fat lady hasn't sang yet.

But she is on stage with her mike ready I feel.

Another poem is forthcoming.
 
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TeeMyob said:
Good Luck.

I hope you do get it. I have first dibbs on buying the concorde when you have finished with it (remember!). So it needs to be in good nick.

(is it because the shed will be over a certain square meter>?
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It's because it's an AONB mainly and the height.
 
TheBig1 said:
how about digging out the drive and reducing the external height of the garage?
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Yes that's been included to an extent, it's sloping the drive area where the proposed garage will be situated so higher area dug out to lessen impact, well spotted though as I never mentioned it.
 
Casper46 said:
We have had a similar problem. The planners first query was' why so tall', I had already explained the height of the motorhome. It has taken 6 months but at last we have planning. Now buildings control want a structural engineers report as the building is long and narrow and the wind might make it unstable. We live on low lying, very sheltered land, but if that's what they need. It won't be going under cover this winter as the land is too boggy now.
Good luck with the planners.
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Structural engineers report has arrived and building regs passed. 9.5m x 6m x4.7 high, , but the planners have told us it must be rendered and painted white. That’s going to hide it a the end of a rural garden!!! Unless it snows a lot.

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Casper46 said:
Structural engineers report has arrived and building regs passed. 9.5m x 6m x4.7 high, , but the planners have told us it must be rendered and painted white. That’s going to hide it a the end of a rural garden!!! Unless it snows a lot.
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That's longer, wider and higher than my proposal, well done though, at least you have got through the bureaucratic nightmare.

Will you get yours complete in 2020?
 
I'd offer storage to a couple of caravans and other large white vehicles and asking DCC what is more visually obtrusive?
 
Casper46 said:
but the planners have told us it must be rendered and painted white.
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Planners. I hate them, when they've exhausted their barrel of excuses and just can't find a valid objection, when begrudgingly they have to pass something, they like to remind you who's in charge with a parting shot, like specifying a stupid building material or insisting on a colour.
 
CazPaul said:
Contacted planning department, it's now gone to landscaping department for their input then everything will be collated together for a final meeting.

It was explained to me again that this is a AONB and they don't want anything impacting on the area, it doesn't sound good, the fat lady hasn't sang yet.

But she is on stage with her mike ready I feel.

Another poem is forthcoming.
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We’re in an AONB too and the planners don’t like the design of our new house either.
Though they did say that they’d support an application for a large ground floor extension to our existing house and a larger garage.
 
Been there we had a mandate to build with bricks called commons in stead of facing bricks we wanted ended up with 48 facing bricks in the planning office showing how it would look built a dry brick wall got called back 2 weeks later to collect said wall

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CazPaul said:
That's longer, wider and higher than my proposal, well done though, at least you have got through the bureaucratic nightmare.

Will you get yours complete in 2020?
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We are hoping to get the ridge lower, we need 3.2 to get through the door, then we will see what the truss designers can come up with. We are hoping to get the footing or slab in in the next few weeks then it will depend on the brickies as to when they can fit it in. We have always done our own building work, but decided to pay someone to get the walls up. We can cope with the foundations, roof and rendering but my shoulders are past the stage of lifting too many concrete blocks. The first of the 6 houses we have built ( in our spare time) was a three storey Dovecote. I could carry 10 pantiles at a time up ladders when we put the roof on, BUT that was 30 years ago, I have learnt over the past few years to say no sometimes when himself asks me to lift and carry things that I shouldn’t.
 
Casper46 said:
We are hoping to get the ridge lower, we need 3.2 to get through the door, then we will see what the truss designers can come up with. We are hoping to get the footing or slab in in the next few weeks then it will depend on the brickies as to when they can fit it in. We have always done our own building work, but decided to pay someone to get the walls up. We can cope with the foundations, roof and rendering but my shoulders are past the stage of lifting too many concrete blocks. The first of the 6 houses we have built ( in our spare time) was a three storey Dovecote. I could carry 10 pantiles at a time up ladders when we put the roof on, BUT that was 30 years ago, I have learnt over the past few years to say no sometimes when himself asks me to lift and carry things that I shouldn’t.
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I would avoid trusses if you want height. I needed 3.5 opening to drive in with the sea kayaks on the roof.

Mine is a slightly different build as I was converting an existing "sixties" double garage, but we fitted a simple steel frame within the existing shell and with a beam as the ridge allowed a let more space, key limiting factor was the lintel across the opening.

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I contacted the planning officer responsible for mine and she said because it's an AONB the planning department now need to contact the landscape department.

Will the landscape department then have to contact another department?

It going to finish up like the bloody Dads Army film this.
 
CazPaul said:
I contacted the planning officer responsible for mine and she said because it's an AONB the planning department now need to contact the landscape department.

Will the landscape department then have to contact another department?

It going to finish up like the bloody Dads Army film this.
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And somebody needs to contact the Ministry of Agriculture to do a survey of the sheep's opinion on ruining their view. Di-Dah-Di Dah.

Geoff
 
I did hear about a house that someone wanted to build ueing white bricks.
Planners said thay had to use normal bricks.
He said fine. Then painted over the bricks when built lol.

Another house built on greenbelt! Its who you know, and he doesn't even live in it.
8 bedroom, £30 million.

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Theonlysue said:
I did hear about a house that someone wanted to build ueing white bricks.
Planners said thay had to use normal bricks.
He said fine. Then painted over the bricks when built lol.

Another house built on greenbelt! Its who you know, and he doesn't even live in it.
8 bedroom, £30 million.

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I’ve seen that house and wondered about it. Whose is it ?
 
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Well done Paul, fantatsic news.

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