Three 'Firsts' yesterday

[nicholsong]

Yesterday we achieved these

1 First trip(only70km) since Nov 2021, not counting 1km to garage and 300m for diesel.

2 First trip since passing 80 years - OH, driving instructor, said I 'passed'.

3 First rip having registered on new Polish e-toll system.

Polish e-Toll system

This is a geo-location system which last year replaced the old Via-Toll box/gantry/camera system, like Austria

Firstly, it was hard to register on-line and failed even with helpline help, so had to drive 15km to a BP garage and he took another 1/2 hour.

We did not register on the old system as we only used a cash-paying bit of M/way and paid for .5t with no questions.

Now we Have Polish registration for the MH at >3.5t so we are in the system. It costs us (Euro III) £0.07 per km. Also they have added the A4 M/way all the way to the German border, which was only part Toll at £3.50, but will now cost us £50 round trip, with only horrendously slow alternatives, unlike France.

Our MH is now Polish registered as 'vintage', which gives us exemption from the >3.5t charge in Switzerland, but ironically not in Poland.

Presumably now that Poland has gone geo-location and other countries still have boxes there will be no chance of integrating them.

 

[The Wino]

I suspect most countries will follow to geolocation and get rid of all the toll booths. It also makes it easy to charge by the mile for all vehicles

 

[nicholsong]

I suspect most countries will follow to geolocation and get rid of all the toll booths. It also makes it easy to charge by the mile for all vehicles

The box systems like the 'Go' box in Austria and the old VIA-Toll in Poland did not need toll booths, only sensors on o/h gantries.

The geo-location allows them to extend to other roads without infrastructure spend and as you say to other vehicles.

 

[TinaLes]

Dear nicholsong, pleased your first trip out in a while went well for you all.
Just out of curiosity, In Poland, do you have to pay annual RFL tax like here in The UK, plus tolls on top, or just pay road tolls when you use them and no annual RFL?
There have been arguments for paying for road use via tolls/road charging, and scrapping the RFL in The UK, but who will win out is anyone's guess in the long run, knowing our luck, we will have both, plus congestion charges in all major towns.
I have in the past been arguing the case to put all RFL tax on fuel, but with the latest world events, maybe I better keep me mouth shut!.
LES

 

[The Wino]

Dear nicholsong, pleased your first trip out in a while went well for you all.
Just out of curiosity, In Poland, do you have to pay annual RFL tax like here in The UK, plus tolls on top, or just pay road tolls when you use them and no annual RFL?
There have been arguments for paying for road use via tolls/road charging, and scrapping the RFL in The UK, but who will win out is anyone's guess in the long run, knowing our luck, we will have both, plus congestion charges in all major towns.
I have in the past been arguing the case to put all RFL tax on fuel, but with the latest world events, maybe I better keep me mouth shut!.
LES

I think the tax on fuel is the better bet too although it as you say won't be very popular ATM.

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[L' Hobo]

I think the tax on fuel is the better bet too although it as you say won't be very popular ATM.

I think the only people who could possibly argue with this (as the Government already collect tax on every litre) is the people at Swansea who work in the Road Tax department.

I, and many others, have been advocating this much fairer and sensible form of road taxing for decades!

 

[nicholsong]

Dear nicholsong, pleased your first trip out in a while went well for you all.
Just out of curiosity, In Poland, do you have to pay annual RFL tax like here in The UK, plus tolls on top, or just pay road tolls when you use them and no annual RFL?
There have been arguments for paying for road use via tolls/road charging, and scrapping the RFL in The UK, but who will win out is anyone's guess in the long run, knowing our luck, we will have both, plus congestion charges in all major towns.
I have in the past been arguing the case to put all RFL tax on fuel, but with the latest world events, maybe I better keep me mouth shut!.
LES

No RFL/VED in Poland.

 

[mitzimad]

I think the only people who could possibly argue with this (as the Government already collect tax on every litre) is the people at Swansea who work in the Road Tax department.

I, and many others, have been advocating this much fairer and sensible form of road taxing for decades!

thats how politics works jobs in wales equals votes i believe it was wilson who moved it