Securing bikes in the garage

Wellington

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Last year, I bungied both bikes to back wall of the motorhome, and while it worked, I was never very happy about it. I want to move the bikes forward and attatch them more securely. One bike is very long, because it has a FollowMe tandem attatchment, and one is very short because it’s for a ten year old, so it makes more sense to have them offset, rather than both centred, which uses space very inefficiently.

So, I want some sort of floor mounted bars to attach them too, like a capital ‘I‘ shape. I have put a raised plywood deck in, so I can bolt into that with impunity, and I would like to screw into the underside of the bed to keep it still, but I expect the base to take most of the load, and the top of the ‘I’ bar to push against the bed, rather than pull on the screws. I have some bike rack arms to fix to it. I also plan to to screw some battens guide the wheels in and stop them sliding.

I’m thinking of something like this, only shorter.

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For ease of loading, I would like to wheel the big bike into some sort of stand. I don’t expect this to secure it, apart from while I am doing up the pole fixings. Because of the tandem attatchemt, it can’t go into a normal stand rear wheel first (and its an ebike with the motor, battery and tandem on the rear wheel, so I need to load it rear wheel first) so I thought I might try sinking it into a ‘slot’ in the ply (I have loads of depth). I’m concerned that just sawing in a slot and plonking the rear wheel into it will damage the tyre though, so I need some sort of ‘wheel cradle’ to fix into the ply.

I can picture exactly how all this needs to work, but I don‘t know what the things are called that I need. I know I could buy a garage rack, but I they take up shedloads of space, hold the bikes in the wrong place (especially the small one) and screw into the walls, which I’m not happy to do at all. Any ideas for what I actually need to look for, clever mechanical people?!
 
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I personally don’t understand the need to secure bikes in garages, unless you’ve got a few thousand pounds worth of nice bike, for me I just stick a bungee around it but each to their own.

So

if you have a wooden deck that you are happy to screw too, the could you fix a raising brace that is fitted to the base via a hinge, that then swings up to locate with a bracket at the top?
 
Or is this any good ??

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I personally don’t understand the need to secure bikes in garages, unless you’ve got a few thousand pounds worth of nice bike, for me I just stick a bungee around it but each to their own.

So

if you have a wooden deck that you are happy to screw too, the could you fix a raising brace that is fitted to the base via a hinge, that then swings up to locate with a bracket at the top?

It’s not so much the worth of the bikes, as the weight on the garage wall, and the Garage Jenga you have to play to get things in and out. I‘m well know for being a pain in the proverbial, but I will honestly do almost anything to save a few minutes on holiday. Because as a single mum, a few minutes is very often all I’ve got.

Or is this any good ??

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Aha! That looks like a solution I could fit! Do you reckon they’d be strong enough to hold the bike in transit (one way to find out, I suppose....). The raising brace sounds like a good idea, too. Do they have other names? Google is giving me medical devices (which I am eminently more competent to use, but that won’t get bikes secured!)
 
For the wheel stand what about one of those butterfly bike racks you sometimes see on walls? It could easily be screwed to your plywood floor but I'm not sure how well they work horizontally - it may not be tall enough to support the bike?
 
For the wheel stand what about one of those butterfly bike racks you sometimes see on walls? It could easily be screwed to your plywood floor but I'm not sure how well they work horizontally - it may not be tall enough to support the bike?

I bought something very similar, before I realised that I can’t get the rear wheel in because of the tandem link. It hangs really low off the back axle of the bike. I might get it in a very low one, I’ll have to go and measure. It needn’t be rock solid, just so I can fix it to the pole(dancer!)
 
Would something like this work?
 
What about a floor mounted bike rack, the regular type that may see installed in a garage ? It's what i installed in our trailer and it handles the different length of bikes very well as all go hard up to one end

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This is a larger unit from Decathlon but you can get 2 bike versions, ours in fact is a 1 bike version that you just buy as many as you need (we have 5 connected together).

Any good ?
 
What about a floor mounted bike rack, the regular type that may see installed in a garage ? It's what i installed in our trailer and it handles the different length of bikes very well as all go hard up to one end

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This is a larger unit from Decathlon but you can get 2 bike versions, ours in fact is a 1 bike version that you just buy as many as you need (we have 5 connected together).

Any good ?

I bought one of these, but I can’t get the rear wheel in with the tandem hitch on. I prefer to load rear first, because all the weight is over the rear, and its bloody heavy! Although, I can’t recall now if I tried it with the little one, because that ought to work. I was going to fit them in real garage, for using at home.

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Wellington(OP)

Whatever you attach to bungies are not the answer. You should use ratchet straps like all truckers do. Bungies stretch under load, ratchet straps do not.

You might find that ratchet straps in the bikes' current positions solves your problem without anything else, unless you wish to shift the weight forward for rear axle loading.

For securing anything in a garage vertical poles are good anchor points. I am not sure the telescopic ones would be very secure in a moving and flexing vehicle.

We were fortunate in that we have transverse plinths on the forward and aft walls walls of the garage. What I think is a previous owner's mod is that there are two s/s rigid poles from each plinth to ceiling, which can be used to secure items with ratchet straps on the plinths and bigger items like bikes, extra water on the garage floor.

Nothing moves.

Just get some ratchet straps and try before you spend any more money - easy to find at B&Q/ Halfords.

Placing any form of fixed rails for bikes reduces the flexibility of other storage.

Geoff



Geoff
 
Have to say have tried floor mounted rack together with bunnies but it is a pain. Also, electric bikes even without a battery are blooming heavy to lift.

So, Tuesday I am going to Rhino installs for the new Thule sliding rack. Will grab a link in a mo and post it. Not cheap.
 
i have one of these in our i138....easy to walk the two ebikes straight onto the floor rail and attach to wall clamp in a few seconds.
i know you want to use the front wall, and have a longer bike (perhaps) than we do (although they are full size 700 wheeled jobbies...but i cant find anything a lot easier than this..
 
It’s not so much the worth of the bikes, as the weight on the garage wall, and the Garage Jenga you have to play to get things in and out. I‘m well know for being a pain in the proverbial, but I will honestly do almost anything to save a few minutes on holiday. Because as a single mum, a few minutes is very often all I’ve got.



Aha! That looks like a solution I could fit! Do you reckon they’d be strong enough to hold the bike in transit (one way to find out, I suppose....). The raising brace sounds like a good idea, too. Do they have other names? Google is giving me medical devices (which I am eminently more competent to use, but that won’t get bikes secured!)

It will hold a bike ok. It’s designed to hold an 8 foot by 4 foot sheet of plasterboard above your head. 👍🏻👍🏻

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OK...... OK......clearly a case of 'two wheels too many'

Get yourself a Unicycle - simples🙂

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Don't over think things. You want a simple 2 bike carrier that you can fix to the floor and wall. Then clip the bikes to that. There are usually a few in the classifieds
 
Wellington(OP)

Whatever you attach to bungies are not the answer. You should use ratchet straps like all truckers do. Bungies stretch under load, ratchet straps do not.

You might find that ratchet straps in the bikes' current positions solves your problem without anything else, unless you wish to shift the weight forward for rear axle loading.

For securing anything in a garage vertical poles are good anchor points. I am not sure the telescopic ones would be very secure in a moving and flexing vehicle.

We were fortunate in that we have transverse plinths on the forward and aft walls walls of the garage. What I think is a previous owner's mod is that there are two s/s rigid poles from each plinth to ceiling, which can be used to secure items with ratchet straps on the plinths and bigger items like bikes, extra water on the garage floor.

Nothing moves.

Just get some ratchet straps and try before you spend any more money - easy to find at B&Q/ Halfords.

Placing any form of fixed rails for bikes reduces the flexibility of other storage.

Geoff



Geoff

I don’t plan to use straps at all. It’s the poles I’m after, and I’ll attach the bikes to them with bike-rack arms. I don’t want to risk screwing into the garage floor itself, or cabinetry. There’s nothing really to attach ratchet straps to, only the plastic fixings in the back wall, which are clearly designed to hold a table and chairs, not a hefty bike. I’m amazed they held, tbh.

The problem (apart from the fact the fixings are not designed to hold a bike!) is that the storage is all held down together, and I have to move the bikes before I can get at the stuff also held on the back wall. I want to fix the bikes independently of other things. I do not want to do that thing where you have an amorphous lump of ‘things in storage’ and have to get the whole lot out every time you want one thing! I don’t need flexibility of storage, I want things to stay where I put them! I know what I need to carry, and I where it should go. If that should change in future, I’m happy with a few holes in the deck. It‘s easily replaced, and not part of the fabric of the MH
 
Welly's garage:

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Have to say have tried floor mounted rack together with bunnies but it is a pain. Also, electric bikes even without a battery are blooming heavy to lift.

So, Tuesday I am going to Rhino installs for the new Thule sliding rack. Will grab a link in a mo and post it. Not cheap.

I lifted them onto a tow bar rack the first year, and it was a nightmare, I needed four hands, and I couldn’t stabilise them and secure them at the same time, and then the bloody ebike fell on my foot! Putting them in the garage is a piece of cake by comparison. They go where I point them and don’t fall off! A bit of a lift, but doable with only two hands!

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For a channel you could use some round profile guttering which you can screw to the plinth in a suitable position and cut to size as required.

For a vertical pole go to B&Q etc and have a shuftie at wardrobe hanging rails/poles.
 
Fancy you remembering that! Minxy Girl. It’s a little slimmed down these days, but you can see how closely the little bike can tuck in next to mine, and how a rack would waste so much space. Her bike especially needs to be accessible so she can get it out and go and join her little biker gang while I’m still faffing about with boring things like water. It’s often the very first thing to be unloaded!

The only reason I think everything survived is that there isn’t really much stress on the clips. Onviously, I’m not accelerating hard, and under braking, the stand is down and the handles bars are only a few ml from the roof, so help to hold it steady.
 
For a channel you could use some round profile guttering which you can screw to the plinth in a suitable position and cut to size as required.

For a vertical pole go to B&Q etc and have a shuftie at wardrobe hanging rails/poles.

d’you reckon they’d be strong enough? It’s such a heavy bike, the followme adds something like 6kg (and a good eight inches, it only just fits!
 
Examples:

Pole:

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Guttering - mini/narrow channel:
 
Onviously, I’m not accelerating hard, and under braking, the stand is down and the handles bars are only a few ml from the roof, so help to hold it steady.

Thats my point. So why all the brackets ratchet straps and all the trouble others mention?

Shove bikes in garage and travel. They can only move 300mm front to back, and your not doing rally stages. Shove a bungee around them to stop the majority of movement, and have a holiday.

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