New 2020 Peugeot e-Boxer electric van arrives with 211 mile range

Great for a delivery van but useless for a Motorhome, 4 ton version top speed 56 mph.
Range is the problem 211 miles claimed in real world being optomistic say 150. So on a typical 6 week trip to Spain & Portugal we do around 3,500 miles that's 24 recharges.
 
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Not going to be useful as a motorhome unless the range can be greatly increased. Real world mileage between charges of electric vehicles is usually a lot less than the manufacturers sales pitch, especially fully loaded, and its a long way to Spain. I would be happy with a 500mile range.
 
For the motorhome we need an electric vehicle like the new electric Black Cabs. They have a “range extender”, and that is just what we need, it would also run all our kit and charge the hab batteries. Because the “range extender“ is a generator, that is under the bonnet and runs on fuel from a petrol station.
Typical sales twaddle 😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
Campsites will have to invest in power infrastructure to provide EV chargers on at least some pitches. CMC has begun to do this for tuggers with plug-in tow cars.

How many sunny days would it take a FLT to recharge once using only solar panels? :rolleyes:

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The problem with all these vans so far is that they are based on ICE chassis. None of the majors are producing a skateboard design that is EV from the ground up.

I am most excited about the new manufacturers like the UK's Arrival... 300 mile range in this one and a ground up design the is far superior in my view.

www.designboom.com

EV manufacturer 'arrival' turns the typical white van into a clean, green machine

www.designboom.com

I really like the look, layout and design of their new van and hoping I can one day do a self build in one.

 
Am. I right in thinking we want an electric vehicle to perform the way our current vehicles do. Perhaps we as individuals need to look at how we plan our travels and make some adjustments. 150/200 will be plenty for some people, depends on re-charge time. Electric vehicles are coming along at a faster pace than most anticipated. We will have to get used to it.
 
Motorhoming will be significantly different once electric motive power has become the norm. It's a way off yet. The days of the FLT will be numbered, as how are they going to recharge - they might, with a shed load of panels, keep their habitation going, but are they going to be happy having to stop off at charging points so they can drive down the road. The green field campsite CS/ CL will be numbered as we'll be wanting recharge. And the average hook up point won't be enough. A 200 mile claimed range isn't going to be enough in the real world, it would rarely get you there and back without a recharge somewhere, and I'm not going to stop off at a service station for a 1 hour booster for a journey. Are those who put vans into storage going to accept they then have to stop off to recharge before they can go on their outing?
 
It may well be a Hydrogen powered van would be a better option than a Battery powered one

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Hydrogen power is dead in the water the infostructure would cost many many million to put in place.
and would the public be trusted to fill their cars and vans with a highly volatile gas under huge pressure?
 
chrisgreen said:
Hydrogen power is dead in the water the infostructure would cost many many million to put in place.
and would the public be trusted to fill their cars and vans with a highly volatile gas under huge pressure?
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Probably not and just think how much its going to cost to install charging networks in place, you could and many did use the same thinking for arguing against the evolution of EV's
 
Coolcats said:
Probably not and just think how much its going to cost to install charging networks in place, you could and many did use the same thinking for arguing against the evolution of EV's
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There are already an awful lot of EV charging points in place at the moment and more being added daily.
www.zap-map.com

Map of electric charging points for electric cars UK: Zapmap

UK-wide map of electric car charging points allowing EV drivers to find EV charge points and plan electric journeys to the nearest charging point.
www.zap-map.com www.zap-map.com
 
chrisgreen said:
There are already an awful lot of EV charging points in place at the moment and more being added daily.
www.zap-map.com

Map of electric charging points for electric cars UK: Zapmap

UK-wide map of electric car charging points allowing EV drivers to find EV charge points and plan electric journeys to the nearest charging point.
www.zap-map.com www.zap-map.com
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Early doors but here is the Hydrogen network, many sites in Cites are going to struggle to provide enough EV points im not saying its impossible but like many things there is another way. Just like the Petrochemical industry the EV industry that is growing will have us believe Batteries are the only way forward.

Just edit to say the blurb states: Hydrogen mobility delivers precisely this: it’s electric mobility with the convenience we’ve grown accustomed to. Refuel in just three minutes, for ranges of 500-700 km. so that's roughly 300 to 400 miles between fill ups that take a few minutes (y)

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Kannon Fodda said:
Motorhoming will be significantly different once electric motive power has become the norm. It's a way off yet. The days of the FLT will be numbered, as how are they going to recharge - they might, with a shed load of panels, keep their habitation going, but are they going to be happy having to stop off at charging points so they can drive down the road. The green field campsite CS/ CL will be numbered as we'll be wanting recharge. And the average hook up point won't be enough. A 200 mile claimed range isn't going to be enough in the real world, it would rarely get you there and back without a recharge somewhere, and I'm not going to stop off at a service station for a 1 hour booster for a journey. Are those who put vans into storage going to accept they then have to stop off to recharge before they can go on their outing?
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The FLT will actually be better off. Rather than fuelling with diesel they will take advantage of free charger points which includes free parking. They will no longer need LPG, Solar Panels, Generators, B2B chargers etc etc. Everything will run on electric and be powered by the vehicle battery.
A 100AH battery at a nominal 12 Volts is a 1200Wh battery with 600Wh available. A van will come with around 100Kwh but being lithium based you can use close to 90% of so their battery bank has gone from 600Wh to 100,000Wh...

Supermarkets and other shops will provide free charging for customers and these will get abused by the FLT who will go and use the free 2 Hour charge to top up each day.
 
Magnets are the way forward.....
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LesW said:
Advertising nonsense, seen any about?
Great if you only stay at premium sites with plenty of charge points..
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You said we will never see any in our lifetime. They exist already and being sold. Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean they don't exist :p

www.outandaboutlive.co.uk

First all-electric motorhome launched in Europe

The first all-electric motorhome has gone on sale in Europe. The model – called the Iridium E Mobil – has no engine and relies solely on batteries for its motive and habitation power.
www.outandaboutlive.co.uk www.outandaboutlive.co.uk

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Still don't understand why the battery isn't a pack system. Have a swap system in any existing garage so no huge infrastructure investment beyond some glorified fork lift truck. Just needs manufacturers to work together to standardise a system.. ah just realised the flaw
 
Gromett said:
The problem with all these vans so far is that they are based on ICE chassis. None of the majors are producing a skateboard design that is EV from the ground up.

I am most excited about the new manufacturers like the UK's Arrival... 300 mile range in this one and a ground up design the is far superior in my view.

www.designboom.com

EV manufacturer 'arrival' turns the typical white van into a clean, green machine

www.designboom.com

I really like the look, layout and design of their new van and hoping I can one day do a self build in one.

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As in ismove the design is using lightweight materials all it needs is a 'properly' designed Alternate fuel vehicle and we are there
 
Simple thing, got to get up in a hurry for some emergency, bloody ell forgot to plug the super dooper car in, never mind only be a couple of hours.
 
Lenny HB said:
You won't be getting one then Richard? :rofl:
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Not for a while I suspect.
But, I would rather like an electric car.
I love our little Lexus hybrid but it’s only really a shopping car so a leckie one would have more than enough range for us.

Richard.

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