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Casper46

Casper46

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We are thinking of building something to keep the worst of the weather off the MH.
I am going to see the planners to see if we can get it under permitted development, which limits the eaves height to 2.5 metres and ridge height 4 metres,
I have spent all morning drawing to scale and I am struggling getting the access height anywhere near. We are not short of room to build.
At the moment all I can think of is a Dutch Barn roof. Has anyone any suggestions please. We have a long history with the local planning department and they are known for being difficult.
The MH is approx. 7.5L x 2.35 W x 3.05 H. We can drop the height slightly by dropping the suspension and think we could dig down 15cms to lose a bit of height.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
Have you thought of lowering the ground?
Someone near me bought a chalet for their garden unbeknown to all neighbours, this huge building came on two trucks. His immediate neighbours complained to the planning dept and when they came out they said he was within an inch of the regs for the height. He had lowered the base. Just a thought
 
If you're 3.1m heigh, I can't see what you can do in order to fit under a 2.5m eave height, short of digging down half a meter (well, more than that by the time you've factored in bases, etc? :unsure:
 
Casper46 said:
going to see the planners to see if we can get it under permitted development, which limits the eaves height to 2.5 metres and ridge height 4 metres
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Just checking, that's for a free-standing building, right? (Ie. A garage)

Are the regs different for a car port (as the topic title suggests) which is essentially a canopy attached to an existing building?
 
Paddywack said:
Please explain your remark?
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Geo said:
Explain your interest
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Paddywack said:
It seems a strange comment to make in a discussion about car ports, presumably it was based on some element of fact?
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Strange to you perhaps make of what you will
 
I’ve toyed with similar arithmetic where height requirements and planning regs don’t work together. A possible solution was to build something that could rise and lower hydraulically. We are not talking a building as such but a lightweight structure that can be raised to park the vehicle and lowered for storage. Probably require a huge expense and the need to dig down to create enough headroom along with a sloping drive. Perhaps I’ve been watching too much Thunderbirds, FAB.
 
Hymer 1961 said:
I’ve toyed with similar arithmetic where height requirements and planning regs don’t work together. A possible solution was to build something that could rise and lower hydraulically. We are not talking a building as such but a lightweight structure that can be raised to park the vehicle and lowered for storage. Probably require a huge expense and the need to dig down to create enough headroom along with a sloping drive. Perhaps I’ve been watching too much Thunderbirds, FAB.
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Naa if you've thought of it, chances are someone has already done it...
 
Geo said:
Strange to you perhaps make of what you will
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I’m keeping out of whatever is going on.

It will be a free standing car port. No doors, no sides required as it will have a very tall existing hedge at one side and a workshop at the other. We are working out the possibility of digging down as the eaves height is measured off the surrounding surface. We need to fathom how long a slope we would need.

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Hymer 1961 said:
I’ve toyed with similar arithmetic where height requirements and planning regs don’t work together. A possible solution was to build something that could rise and lower hydraulically. We are not talking a building as such but a lightweight structure that can be raised to park the vehicle and lowered for storage. Probably require a huge expense and the need to dig down to create enough headroom along with a sloping drive. Perhaps I’ve been watching too much Thunderbirds, FAB.
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Himself would love that idea, I can guarantee that he will have some very heavy duty rams in the building he calls a workshop, he can’t work in it as it’s full of useless or useful things.
 
What if you had a single pitch roof, 2.5m one side, 4m the other. There should be enough clearance to get it under then. :unsure:
 
HandyAndy said:
Naa if you've thought of it, chances are someone has already done it...
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I hope that Ferrari is quicker than the lift, I’d think twice about popping down the shops for a pint of milk. We had something similar years ago at work, but the hydraulics where problematic, I’m guessing things have moved on. I was thinking more of a frame that could go up and down in small increments to accommodate the MH.
 
A relative of ours who lived in North Yorkshire once said “ Tell planning its equine related and you will get permission much easier , they can’t resist anything horse related “
The ‘Equine property ‘ he built didn’t half look like a house ?
 
Apache said:
A relative of ours who lived in North Yorkshire once said “ Tell planning its equine related and you will get permission much easier , they can’t resist anything horse related “
The ‘Equine property ‘ he built didn’t half look like a house ?
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Good idea, but I will have to find a very long legged horse to convince them that I need over 3 metres height.
 
"Digging out" is fraught with issues, not the least being where the Water Table is. And the ability to cope with heavy Storm`s. Drainage would have to cope with a "Worst Case" scenario, or you could finish up with a Motorhome stood in several inches of water.?? and attendant wildlife?.
 
Yes carpory maybe classed as temporary structure so no planning required i would check

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PeteH said:
"Digging out" is fraught with issues, not the least being where the Water Table is. And the ability to cope with heavy Storm`s. Drainage would have to cope with a "Worst Case" scenario, or you could finish up with a Motorhome stood in several inches of water.?? and attendant wildlife?.
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Would it be the whale or croc that would eat the biscuits, that is if Casper didn’t beat them to it. You are quite right about the water table, we have a small river in the field at the end of the garden.
I hope that Cheshire Cat is correct, but knowing our planning dept it is logical to pay my £26 and go and ask them.
I have done some scale sketches and reckon a Dutch Barn style roof should sort the height problem.
 
Think it has to have at least 2 open sides and be less than 30 sq metres overall

So 4 metres high on an end wall, protruding 2.5 metres, sloping to 3.5 and less than 12 metres long would do it. I would fit a 1 metre down face on the long open side as well

I reckon a good uPVC company could supply and fit that
 
Casper46 said:
Would it be the whale or croc that would eat the biscuits, that is if Casper didn’t beat them to it. You are quite right about the water table, we have a small river in the field at the end of the garden.
I hope that Cheshire Cat is correct, but knowing our planning dept it is logical to pay my £26 and go and ask them.
I have done some scale sketches and reckon a Dutch Barn style roof should sort the height problem.
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I wouldnt engage with the planning department at all
If you dont need planning, you dont need planning
 
'Permitted development' has been mentioned - surely that means, not requiring planning permission.

However, if it is not possible to erect a carport to the spec the OP requires under 'permitted development', presumably the answer is simply to apply for planning permission.

Yes, I appreciate there's nominal extra cost and a small risk the application could be rejected, but it would be the sensible way to go if unable to meet permitted development regs.
 
Raised collar trusses* could be used to comply with 2.5m eaves, 4m ridge and give the required clearance especially if you reduced the ground level slightly, although you would need to make sure that drainage etc would work if the latter is implemented.
* Is this what you refer to as a Dutch Barn roof?
Ps. Be careful not to fall foul with Planning re temporary structures as often we read about a father building a tree house and having to submit a retrospective application, and having that refused.

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