Island bed Auto Clou liner

[jongood]

Following a conversation yesterday, I was perusing Mobile.de and spotted this. I know a lot of people like Island beds and autos. Seems in nice condition

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[Flairy]

There’s two clou liners on both very nice good buys for someone.

 

[funflair]

That's a nice looking van Jon and good layout for 8.4 metres, 220 horses so is that a 6 cylinder, in which case 7500kg? and looks like it loses some garage space with the Alde in there, a lot of truck for the money for somebody though.

 

[jongood]

That's a nice looking van Jon and good layout for 8.4 metres, 220 horses so is that a 6 cylinder, in which case 7500kg? and looks like it loses some garage space with the Alde in there, a lot of truck for the money for somebody though.

It is isnt it, yes 220hp at that age would be 6 cylinder. I would imagine its tight on weight though, doesnt say which auto, wonder if its an Allison?

The other one Flairy is on the Atego chassis, bit bouncy compared to the MAN but again some nice touches.

 

[funflair]

It is isnt it, yes 220hp at that age would be 6 cylinder. I would imagine its tight on weight though, doesnt say which auto, wonder if its an Allison?

The other one Flairy is on the Atego chassis, bit bouncy compared to the MAN but again some nice touches.

Tight, surely it will be well over what does your weigh Jon?

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[jongood]

Tight, surely it will be well over what does your weigh Jon?

8600kgs with all my stuff in it but I think mine is on a heavier chassis and quite a few extras. I could really do with getting it on an axle weigher. But they re gard to find public and might be pushing my luck asking to use a Vosa one

 

[funflair]

Ours was weighed at MOT Jon jongood, both axles it was a council depot though so they had all the gear.

 

[Flairy]

Jongood there’s a weighbridge at Aston for Dalgettys corn merchants Aston near nantwitch thats were mine was weighed cost £10

 

[jongood]

Jongood there’s a weighbridge at Aston for Dalgettys corn merchants Aston near nantwitch thats were mine was weighed cost £10

Thanks but is it an ordinary weighbridge or an axlexweigher? This has prompted me to weigh it again because I find it hard to believe quite how heavy it is but this time I want get axle weights

 

[Flairy]

They moved me from axle one front then the rear twin . Does that make sense?

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[funflair]

They moved me from axle one front then the rear twin . Does that make sense?

When I weighed our Flair I just put the front on and then all of it and simple maths gave me the rear

 

[Jez1966]

€99,999 for a near 20 year old motorhome, Sleeps 3.
Bonus looks like 10 glasses each?
Little storage for anything else though.

 

[Jez1966]

From the same seller.
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2000 - €54,990 - 25k
I thought our Kon-Tiki 599 had a overhang.
Island bed was a deal breaker for us, and not boast, we have 9 speed auto..

 

[Jez1966]

They moved me from axle one front then the rear twin . Does that make sense?

For 2 axle vehicle, on level ground, weighing front then rear axle give individually axle weights and added together you get total.
You could measure each wheel and sum.

 

[funflair]

From the same seller.
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2000 - €54,990 - 25k
I thought our Kon-Tiki 599 had a overhang.
Island bed was a deal breaker for us, and not boast, we have 9 speed auto..

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I suppose on the face of it it sounds a bit mad but these are quality vans, if you want something like this new you would need to dig deep, end of the day though they are that price because people want them and are prepared to pay the price.

I think the overhang is as much a trick of the camera as anything else and air suspension takes away ant worries about clearance.

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[Jez1966]

Oh what a rabbit hole
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I'll keep you informed how the discussions go..

 

[Jez1966]

I suppose on the face of it it sounds a bit mad but these are quality vans, if you want something like this new you would need to dig deep, end of the day though they are that price because people want them and are prepared to pay the price.

I think the overhang is as much a trick of the camera as anything else and air suspension takes away ant worries about clearance.

But appliances are OLD and from appearance layout is poor.
Overhand is not parallax, it has a very big booty.
Unless air suspension, if it has, can raise it's booty seveal inches, for ferries etc, it defy pythagoras.

 

[funflair]

But appliances are OLD and from appearance layout is poor.
Overhand is not parallax, it has a very big booty.
Unless air suspension, if it has, can raise it's booty seveal inches, for ferries etc, it defy pythagoras.

layout is a personal thing and this isn't the only option on the Clou liner so I am sure there would be one to suit most people, these things are on a truck chassis so higher to start with and then air to lift if required.

 

[CazPaul]

But appliances are OLD and from appearance layout is poor.
Overhand is not parallax, it has a very big booty.
Unless air suspension, if it has, can raise it's booty seveal inches, for ferries etc, it defy pythagoras.

Appliances can be replaced though, with motorhomes you pay for the general overall construction, this is a quality built van the Clou, you’re not going to get damp even if a roof light/window does leak, unlike a lot of vans.

When you walk in a quality van you can just feel it, the overall feeling, the rigidity/solidness of the construction/furniture, I saw a light accident with a modern coachbuilt van recently, it was like ripping paper apart the rear add on section, a bit of wood frame with a lightweight shell around it. Very scary. My first though was I could have put my fist straight through those walls.
I didn’t see what make it was but the build construction was shocking and so cheaply done.
You have to look at the way they are built to appreciate them, not the age. Ok, the engines won’t meet modern emissions standards but you still have a van for life.

There’s many a good tune played on an old fiddle.

 

[jongood]

€99,999 for a near 20 year old motorhome, Sleeps 3.
Bonus looks like 10 glasses each?
Little storage for anything else though.

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Because the quality and finish is superb. These are what N&B made their name on, best chassis, best build, best components. Modern ones dont even come close.

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[Flairy]

Sometimes it’s not worth explaining quality .

 

[Jez1966]

8600kgs with all my stuff in it but I think mine is on a heavier chassis and quite a few extras. I could really do with getting it on an axle weigher. But they re gard to find public and might be pushing my luck asking to use a Vosa one

Over 7500kg requires C Class licence.
We did look at a 4x4 DIY truck conversion but getting C class was "impossible" at the time due to covid.

 

[jongood]

Over 7500kg requires C Class licence.
We did look at a 4x4 DIY truck conversion but getting C class was "impossible" at the time due to covid.

I'm not understanding your point here sorry.

 

[Jez1966]

I'm not understanding your point here sorry.

You say your van weighs 8600kgs.
I was just commenting that I had looked at a >7500kgs DIY 4x4 truck but found getting lessons and test for required C class licence
"impossible" during covid so opted for <7500kgs as I already have C1.
I presume getting lessons and test for C class licence was easier when you took the additional test required.

 

[jongood]

You say your van weighs 8600kgs.
I was just commenting that I had looked at a >7500kgs DIY 4x4 truck but found getting lessons and test for required C class licence
"impossible" during covid so opted for <7500kgs as I already have C1.
I presume getting lessons and test for C class licence was easier when you took the additional test required.

Thinks were very different in 1991 when I took Class 1 test.
I think a class C test is excellent training for anyone wishing to drive larger motorhomes with the additional benefit that ussd mh's over 7500kgs tend to be better value for money.

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[Rob Turner]

Thinks were very different in 1991 when I took Class 1 test.
I think a class C test is excellent training for anyone wishing to drive larger motorhomes with the additional benefit that ussd mh's over 7500kgs tend to be better value for money.

The Class 1 back then was a proper test with a proper gearbox, not like it is today.
Johnny Morris did my training and it cost me £300 to pass.
I don’t know if they still go over the Welsh Bridge on the test but it was always a bit tight

 

[jongood]

The Class 1 back then was a proper test with a proper gearbox, not like it is today.
Johnny Morris did my training and it cost me £300 to pass.
I don’t know if they still go over the Welsh Bridge on the test but it was always a bit tight

Me too. Although their proper gearbox for my test was a 6 sp ZF, imagine the shock when I got in a Volvo with Range change and splitter.

 

[Rob Turner]

Me too. Although their proper gearbox for my test was a 6 sp ZF, imagine the shock when I got in a Volvo with Range change and splitter.

Think it was a spicer in the Leyland I used.
First trip out after my test was a LHD Renault R420 with a B18 box. It was like stirring porridge.

 

[Marie-Claire]

Joy's of being a trucker of the older generation

 

[jongood]

Think it was a spicer in the Leyland I used.
First trip out after my test was a LHD Renault R420 with a B18 box. It was like stirring porridge.

One constant - Renault trucks are still..........

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