Is it now time to go electric.

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I spent the day in London yesterday, it is a fantastic place to spend a day in an EV. Special Parking for EVs, charging for EVs no congestion for EVs. It is like the old days. So is it time to go electric? Not just cars, motorbikes too . Proper motorbikes big jobbies all electric, they don't make a sound as they fly through the traffic and some of the very expensive kit the riders whare is sooooo.. futuristic. Is it now time to go electric or should we wait a little longer.

 

[AndyPK]

Who wants to go to London then…..?!?

 

[Tombola]

Depends on many things, depending on who you are. Cost being just one.
ease of use for me is a factor,better for the planet (yes yes I know) less maintenance, vehicle repay value, comfort of drive, and of course the elephant in the room ......charging ability.

Motorbikes, thats another story, I like the look intially of the foward thinking, but Ill stick with my VTX for now.
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[Landy Andy]

Got customers who have hybrid 4x4s never charge them, and the have silly low range. But means they can go to their London place of work/houses/theatres/shops, all free of extra charges. Not bothered about the electrical bit, apart from financial benefits.

 

[buttons]

Who wants to go to London then…..?!?

All these fossil fuel deterrents will be coming to a town/city near you AP there is no fighting it. I see fuel at £2 a liter yesterday at what price will you think enough is enough.

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[pagey]

I'll stick with my car and use the underground

 

[CazPaul]

Most people won’t do it until they are forced to, I’m talking about most working people who don’t live in big cities.

It’s a different mentality out in the countryside, in the power cut storm Arwen Nov/Dec last year we were without power for 8 days, the very few with electric cars couldn’t move them.

 

[buttons]

Depends on many things, depending in who you are. Cost being just one.
ease of use for me is a factor,better for the planet (yes yes I know) less maintenance, vehicle repay value, comfort of drive, and of course the elephant in the room ......charging ability.

Motorbikes, thats another story, I like the look intially of the foward thinking, but Ill stick with my VTX for now.
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You sound like a convert in the making Tom. Some of those motorbikes are looking irresistible.

 

[Pausim]

Whilst there are EV exemptions/discounts for LEZ and ULEZ I don’t think they apply to the Congestion charge.

 

[CazPaul]

Whilst there are EV exemptions/discounts for LEZ and ULEZ I don’t think they apply to the Congestion charge.

So full electric vehicles still pay the congestion charge?

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[Tombola]

So full electric vehicles still pay the congestion charge?

no, its done via 100% discounts

 

[Raul]

Full EV’s don’t pay any London charge.

 

[AndyPK]

Full EV’s don’t pay any London charge.

Yet……….

 

[joe and sue]

No way, not until EV's become affordable to the masses !!

 

[Pausim]

no, its done via 100% discounts

Happy to be wrong. I thought the congestion charge was about congestion not emissions, unlike the LEZ and ULEZ.

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[Raul]

Actually I think now it’s heaven for EV’s, when everyone has one, or more ppl make the move, the benefits that are now, will be gone.

 

[Podney]

May be OK if you are in London. But for me,it’s too early. The technology is still very untried,very few charging points out in the sticks, poor range, and most of all…………why should I fork out a small fortune for a new electric car when the diesel rocket ship I’ve got suits me fine.

 

[Raul]

If now you live outside London and have a house with a roof, maybe a outbuilding as well, you stick 8kwp of solar on, and a EV on the drive. That’s a sweat combo.

 

[AndyPK]

If now you live outside London and have a house with a roof, maybe a outbuilding as well, you stick 8kwp of solar on, and a EV on the drive. That’s a sweat combo.

….and quite expensive too!

 

[RobertJary]

Full EV’s don’t pay any London charge.

Why not - they’re still causing congrstion

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So full electric vehicles still pay the congestion charge?

No they dont CazPaul Quote: A question is often asked is whether or not there’s an electric vehicle congestion charge, and thankfully there’s not. All fully electric cars are completely exempt from the London Congestion Charge, as well as the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) charge.

This applies to everything from the affordable and popular Nissan Leaf to the luxury Porsche Taycan. This continues in October when low-emission petrol and diesel must start to pay. Given petrol and diesel company cars won’t be exempt from paying the charge, if you want to avoid the Congestion Charge, electric cars are the way to go.

 

[buttons]

….and quite expensive too!

Not if you utilise the storage capacity of your EV for your domestic power supply AP.

 

[joe and sue]

Not if you utilise the storage capacity of your EV for your domestic power supply AP.

Can someone please tell me what the TRUE cost of installing all this money saving equipment is ??
Thanks
Joe

 

[EuroTrotters]

Maybe when I get a smallholding, wind turbine, solar and money. That and the only travel we do is to Waitrose

 

[buttons]

Why not - they’re still causing congrstion

But they are clean without pollution. It is the quality of the air we breath that is the point in question. This is the reason for the ulez etc that now extends out to the ring road, it is there to extend the lives of those who live and work in big cities.

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[L' Hobo]

I spent the day in London yesterday, it is a fantastic place to spend a day in an EV. Special Parking for EVs, charging for EVs no congestion for EVs. It is like the old days. So is it time to go electric? Not just cars, motorbikes too . Proper motorbikes big jobbies all electric, they don't make a sound as they fly through the traffic and some of the very expensive kit the riders whare is sooooo.. futuristic. Is it now time to go electric or should we wait a little longer.

Have you never heard of a 'loss-leader' do you really believe that once more people are committed to electric all these freebees will remain?

 

[Lenny HB]

All the time EV's are 50%dearer than ICE car they don't make financial sense before you even mention the charging problem.
Government grant towards them has dropped to 2½k, no help with a charging point if you live in a detached house.
And doing less than 2000 miles a year in the car (our Motorhome is the high mileage vehicle) it makes no sense at all.

Makes more sense in Germany they get 30% grant towards an EV, brings them down to the same price as normal. car.

 

[L' Hobo]

But they are clean without pollution. It is the quality of the air we breath that is the point in question. This is the reason for the ulez etc that now extends out to the ring road, it is there to extend the lives of those who live and work in big cities.

Sorry, but how can the manufacture of new vehicles, the scrapping of old, AND the making electricity be COMPLETELY without pollution???

 

[A S R]

I’ll stick with my gas guzzling V8 Merc and avoid London like the plague.
I have no desire whatsoever to go to that place. Ever.

 

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Can someone please tell me what the TRUE cost of installing all this money saving equipment is ??
Thanks
Joe

If you have an EV along with a few solar panels or a cheap charging source then not very much j&s. A set of batteries equivalent to a large tank of fuel will supply a great deal of domestic electricity as an alternative to paying the grid supplier for it.

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