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Thanks for these thoughts. Our local Hymer dealer has tried Hymer in Germany but they won't release the information! What I need is the RAL number to get some gelcoat to repair some small marks on the white moulding. It's been suggested that the white is the same as Fiat bianco as it is built on a FIAT Ducato but haven't been able to get the RAL number which is what the gel coat supplier requires. I've tried Signal White RAL 9003 but it is too white.