Help with waterworks.

[Wabs]

Evening all,,I’m having a bit of a moment,,I have checked various threads about water filling hoses,,but they all seem quite old,,I just need any advice or definitive answer as to if Need to buy food grade hoses or would a normal hose do.? Now I fully get it that some peeps would have their own views on this,,so I would love to hear them so I can make a choice.( based on the knowledge of all funsters). Thanks in advance,,please feel free to take the pee,,,

 

[WillH]

Sotty, can't help, we use a watering can.

 

[PeteH]

I`ve never had a "food grade" hose. Filled R-V`s (60 US gallon). I`m still here?.

Most UK Water, is sensibly treated and flows through the hose at rate that is unlikely to pick up any Bacterium.

 

[Wabs]

Thanks for that,

 

[mushy]

Same for me. Let it run out for a few seconds to wash any bugs out that might have been in your van and fill the tank.

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[Ridgeway]

For water storage i'd agree that a food grade vessel should be used, for a tube that the water is in contact with for less than 5 seconds i honestly would not be concerned.

Other things that make me less concerned about using regular PVC hose pipe is that the water passing through is generally cold, it's fresh water and not salt water and overall all these things reduce the risk that the plasticisers release anything.

 

[peterc10]

My first rule is NEVER trust a campsite or Aire hose. I have seen them abused too much. If necessary unscrew them from the tap and use your own.

I have a couple of hoses that expand under water pressure like this one One is 30m long when extended and the other is 15m. I bought them on Ebay. I have put hoselock type push fit fittings on them so I can join them together. When you have finished filling with them they shrink down very small and expel nearly all the water in them. They take up very little room and I keep them in a medium sized plastic box. I also have a 3m length and 6m length of ordinary garden hose for using dedicated motorhome filling points, again with push fit fittings.

None are food grade because I always run the water a little bit before putting it in the tank, which means the water will only be in them for a few seconds. No time to leach out anything.

To attach to taps you will need a set of screw on tap adaptors, which can be bought on Ebay or in B&Q. Try to get ones for 1/2", 3/4" and 1" BSP adaptors. These will fit nearly all the screw type taps found in the UK and Europe. Most will use the 3/4" one, but you may occasionally come across the smaller or larger one. Take several, especially the 3/4" one, because I guarantee that every trip you will leave at least one on a tap somewhere!

 

[Wabs]

My first rule is NEVER trust a campsite or Aire hose. I have seen them abused too much. If necessary unscrew them from the tap and use your own.

I have a couple of hoses that expand under water pressure like this one One is 30m long when extended and the other is 15m. I bought them on Ebay. I have put hoselock type push fit fittings on them so I can join them together. When you have finished filling with them they shrink down very small and expel nearly all the water in them. They take up very little room and I keep them in a medium sized plastic box. I also have a 3m length and 6m length of ordinary garden hose for using dedicated motorhome filling points, again with push fit fittings.

None are food grade because I always run the water a little bit before putting it in the tank, which means the water will only be in them for a few seconds. No time to leach out anything.

To attach to taps you will need a set of screw on tap adaptors, which can be bought on Ebay or in B&Q. Try to get ones for 1/2", 3/4" and 1" BSP adaptors. These will fit nearly all the screw type taps found in the UK and Europe. Most will use the 3/4" one, but you may occasionally come across the smaller or larger one. Take several, especially the 3/4" one, because I guarantee that every trip you will leave at least one on a tap somewhere!

Thanks for that,,brilliant,,another page in my knowledge folder,,

 

[Silver-Fox]

Sotty, can't help, we use a watering can.

Is it food grade

 

[TheBig1]

Food grade hose does not have to be silly expensive £22 for 20m which I bought recently to make up 2 10m hoses

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[Silver-Fox]

As has been said.
I use expandable hoses, not food grade.
I also drink and use the water from the tank

All water in the U.K. is treated and your stored water is kept in a dark area.

No one thinks anything of drinking bottled water that’s traveled loads of miles and possibly left in the sun

 

[Landy Andy]

Same as me. Two food grade 10m flat hoses carried. Most the only one needed. Sometimes you may have to join them.

 

[jollyrodger]

Saw the thread title.
Thought you can get pills for that

 

[Wabs]

Saw the thread title.
Thought you can get pills for that

I ve tried. Really. ,I’ve tried,,lol

 

[WillH]

Is it food grade

Don't know, got it in the pound shop!

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[DBK]

I used to be in the school which thought for filling you don't need a food grade hose. Then last year our lay-flat hose bought from a yacht chandler failed after 6 years while we were in France.

I bought some green "garden" hose from a farm supplier and then wondered why our water tasted foul. I even started a thread on here about French water tasting nasty!

It wasn't the water, it was the hose and the water still tasted unpleasant even after four weeks of daily use. Whatever chemicals were in the hose they were persistent.

When we got home the replacement hose went in the bin and I bought another lay-flat hose from a chandlers. Water fine now.

 

[Kirsten]

We use a blue food grade hose as it is flat and lightweight- had it for over 11 years. Have lots of different tap fittings ,always use our own fixtures if possible as have seen people washing toilets out at fresh water taps. Never used tank cleaner stuff for the fresh water but saying that we only drink boiled water ( tea coffee) in the van either in uk or abroad -occasionally bottled water abroad or have small container we fill from sink if we are in campsite, which isn’t often.. think it is a personal issue - do what you feel ok with xx

 

[intokenny]

Watering can for me.

 

[Just smiffy]

Has anyone got food grade copper, lead, plastic or clay pipes into there home....

 

[Wabs]

Has anyone got food grade copper, lead, plastic or clay pipes into there home....

Just asking a question,I’m personally not worried about drinking anything( I was in the forces for years) but I am worried for my much better half,, that’s all,

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[Wabs]

We use a blue food grade hose as it is flat and lightweight- had it for over 11 years. Have lots of different tap fittings ,always use our own fixtures if possible as have seen people washing toilets out at fresh water taps. Never used tank cleaner stuff for the fresh water but saying that we only drink boiled water ( tea coffee) in the van either in uk or abroad -occasionally bottled water abroad or have small container we fill from sink if we are in campsite, which isn’t often.. think it is a personal issue - do what you feel ok with xx

I seem to have a cast iron stomach,,but my wife hasn’t,,I just want to make her feel comfy and not worry about daft things like water,,,

 

[Landy Andy]

Has anyone got food grade copper, lead, plastic or clay pipes into there home....

Yes The copper and plastic is certified in my house, as it is in most houses, and the joining solder is lead free to comply to these regs. Lead pipe isn’t food grade or safe thats why it’s replaced when found, and clay pipes are for waste water not supply.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Don't know, got it in the pound shop!

How much did you pay for it

 

[Silver-Fox]

Yes The copper and plastic is certified in my house, as it is in most houses, and the joining solder is lead free to comply to these regs. Lead pipe isn’t food grade or safe thats why it’s replaced when found, and clay pipes are for waste water not supply.

Only since around 1985 was lead removed from potable water pipes

If you’ve a house older than that and it’s not been replumbed the odds are you’ve still got lead solder

As for that plastic pipe they use

 

[Landy Andy]

Only since around 1985 was lead removed from potable water pipes

If you’ve a house older than that and it’s not been replumbed the odds are you’ve still got lead solder

As for that plastic pipe they use

Yes it’s been fully replumbed, Im a plumber.

And I believe lead pipes haven’t been used since 1970

“As a result, the Government has banned the use of lead in many products, and it has not been used for water pipes since 1970. The Government also advises that we should minimise our exposure to lead from all sources, including drinking water.”

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[Silver-Fox]

Yes it’s been fully replumbed, Im a plumber.

Didn’t think you’re supposed to work on your own house.

You know like a mechanic never fixes his own car

 

[Landy Andy]

It was nearly 20 years ago, and pretty much zero done since to comply with “trade rules”

one day I may even finish it.

 

[The Coops]

I use this, made a bracket that goes on filler opening and use hoselock connectors, always run water through for a few mins if not been used in a while and always spray taps on site with an anti bacteria spray of that popular flea bay site, you can also get differing grades of filter for different jobs such as removing chlorine taste etc and are a doddle to change, one filter one season but so far this year one days use!

1.10" Water / Biodiesel Filter Housing 1" 3/4" 1/2" BSP Cartridge + Bacinix Ring
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[emjaiuk]

I used to be in the school which thought for filling you don't need a food grade hose. Then last year our lay-flat hose bought from a yacht chandler failed after 6 years while we were in France.

I bought some green "garden" hose from a farm supplier and then wondered why our water tasted foul. I even started a thread on here about French water tasting nasty!

It wasn't the water, it was the hose and the water still tasted unpleasant even after four weeks of daily use. Whatever chemicals were in the hose they were persistent.

When we got home the replacement hose went in the bin and I bought another lay-flat hose from a chandlers. Water fine now.

I don't know how you tell, but you need good quality if you're using a green hose. we've never used food grade, and had no problems whatsoever until we bought a 'bargain' hose from Screwfix for the garden. It's one of those 18mm yellow ones you see being used in garden centres. the first and only time we used it for the MH it left an awful taste, and that was immediately after sprinkling the garden for about 40minutes. the green hoses we use are Hozelock, and don't seem to effect the taste at all.