Going to weighbridge with Tag, worth getting axle weighed seperate

[Spawn_e_git]

Going to take my Argos 748 to the weighbridge this week with it fully loaded except for water.
Thos should tell us how much we would normally weight when travelling.

Question:

Is is it worth getting the whole van weighed or splitting it between front and rear?

The weighbridge charges £15 a time do front & rear = £30 or the whole van £15.

Is it worth paying the £30 or even £45 for front/rear/complete.

 

[Robert Clark]

You need front and rear axles weighed separately- plus the total weight

£45 seems expensive to me
Check online for your local public weighbridges and compare prices

 

[2x2camper]

Going to take my Argos 748 to the weighbridge this week with it fully loaded except for water.
Thos should tell us how much we would normally weight when travelling.

Question:

Is is it worth getting the whole van weighed or splitting it between front and rear?

The weighbridge charges £15 a time do front & rear = £30 or the whole van £15.

Is it worth paying the £30 or even £45 for front/rear/complete.

Isn't there a cheap one you can use?

That's extortionate

 

[TerryL]

That's very expensive for a weighbridge! Your local council depot will have one and even if they charge it'll be a LOT less than that. Ours charged me a fiver - £10 if I wanted a ticket.

 

[addoaddo]

Depends how close you are to you max weight. Often one axle can be overloaded if the van is close to the max limit.

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[Spawn_e_git]

Nearest council one is about 15 miles from me and is £4 cheaper but will not do split/axle weighs...

Heading up near Warwick via Banbury on Friday, anyone know a good/cheaper one en-route?

 

[suavecarve]

Buy a reich weighing machine. About 120 quid delivered and weigh the van and axles as many times as you want.

They weigh 2kgs though !

 

[suavecarve]

BROKEN LINK

OK quick google search says they are now 180 nicker. POssibly cheaper if you buy the one that only weighs up to 1000 kgs but that does sort of defeat the object as possibly over at the front for you.

Weighs all 6 wheels individually by driving over it individually and then you get your pen and paper out and calculator if necessary.

 

[Reallyretired]

I have had a reich thingy for years. Maybe heavy but you don't really need to take it everywhere with you. Mine stays at home for occasional use.

 

[Spawn_e_git]

I think I'd just pay the extra for the local place rather than go through the hassle of buying g my own weighing kit

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[GAVLAD]

I take mine to the local council weigh bridge next to the tip who usually weight the bin wagons.
They too said they only do an overhaul vehicle weight when I asked for separate weights.
In the end, we compromised.
On the way in, they weigh my front axle and write down the weight. Thumb up out of kiosk window and I drive fully on. They weigh vehicle and this is what I pay for. I then drive off and turn around and drive back on from the other direction but drive front end off so they weigh rear axles and write this weight down.
Doing it this way, they only charge me the one fee as they only give me one weigh ticket/print out, but on this, they write on the front axle weight and the rear axles weight.

I think any local council weighbridge would do this if you explain what you’re wanting.
It’s no big deal for them as long as they can account for it whereby a weigh ticket/print out tally’s with the fee.

I weighed mine full of everything I was taking on my hols but everything in the garage had been weighed on the bathroom scales and noted down beforehand just in case I was over, I could ditch some of the crap that we cart around.

 

[Steve and Denise]

Local coal yard or grain store is often a good bet.

 

[G7UXG]

Cost me £12 the other day at a timber yard in Tern Hill in Shropshire. They did the total weight and also the tag axles together. Front can be worked out by deduction... no need to weigh it. Motorhome was brand new, just picked up and so wanted the weights whilst empty. I thought £12 was expensive for 1 minute's work.

 

[Lanerboy]

Spawn_e_git There is a public weighbridge here CV35 7DY just off junc 15 of M40 near Warwick I used it think it was £20 for both axles and total weight

 

[GAVLAD]

I’ll probably get pulled for being over now I’ve added to this thread

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[tacr2man]

When weighing doing the axles separately will give you the total you dont need to weigh with both axles on .
With 3 axles you need to do three weighings and do the maths a bit differently

 

[Lenny HB]

List of VOSA weighbridges here normally free to use.

Sorry can't get hyperlink to work on phone here is the address.

VOSA-operated vehicle weighbridges (F0005175)

Freedom of Information response about the location of vehicle weighbridges.

www.gov.uk

 

[Lanerboy]

How can you weigh each axle on a tag axle van how do you weigh the middle axle as the front wheels or rear axle will be on the weigh bridge at the same time I doubt it will be a weighbridge short enough to just weigh the axles separately

 

[Lenny HB]

How can you weigh each axle on a tag axle van how do you weigh the middle axle as the front wheels or rear axle will be on the weigh bridge at the same time I doubt it will be a weighbridge short enough to just weigh the axles separately

Use a dynamic weighbridge.

 

[Lanerboy]

Use a dynamic weighbridge.

Yes I know that you mean lenny but I doubt there are many of those around normally weighbridges I have used have been the normal long ones which will take a 44 ton truck in one go

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[bigtwin]

. I thought £12 was expensive for 1 minute's work.

But it isn’t covering just 1 minutes work. The chap at the weigh bridge will be there all day, he has to be paid and weigh bridges don’t come cheap.

If there was a continuous queue the operator might feel that he could reduce his charges but he’ll know the demand and his £12 will reflect what makes it a viable business. If he charged too much you, and others, might not return.

Personally, I’d view £12 as a bargain to know that I’m legal on my weights.

Ian

 

[Gellyneck]

Just put ours over a local haulage company weighbridge (foc through a friend of a friend!) however as it is a raised platform couldn't get fully accurate split front \ rear axle weights but OK for total weight.
The total weight was 40kgs higher than the combined front and rear but is accurate enough for me at this time as all a reasonable bit under the maximums (even adding the 40kgs to both of the individual split weights).

 

[Lenny HB]

Yes I know that you mean lenny but I doubt there are many of those around normally weighbridges I have used have been the normal long ones which will take a 44 ton truck in one go

Most of the VOSA roadside ones are dynamic there is one less than 2 miles from my house. Open 24/7 and free.

 

[tonyidle]

Yes I know that you mean lenny but I doubt there are many of those around normally weighbridges I have used have been the normal long ones which will take a 44 ton truck in one go

A bit OTT though - it would be difficult to load a van so that one rear axle carried a substantially different load to the other. The usual (and convenient) way to weigh a van is front then total. Subtracting front from total = rear.

 

[bigtwin]

A bit OTT though - it would be difficult to load a van so that one rear axle carried a substantially different load to the other. The usual (and convenient) way to weigh a van is front then total. Subtracting front from total = rear.

Not at all. Any load placed rear wards of the rearmost axle will have a tendency to make the van ‘pivot’ around the rear most axle. This will take weight off both the front axle and the ‘middle’ axle (albeit to different extents). It’s a natural phenomenon.

Ian

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[The Silvers]

I use a local quarry which is free! I always slip the operator a 'drink' to keep them onside. They have no problem doing each axle and GVW.

 

[tonyidle]

Not at all. Any load placed rear wards of the rearmost axle will have a tendency to make the van ‘pivot’ around the rear most axle. This will take weight off both the front axle and the ‘middle’ axle (albeit to different extents). It’s a natural phenomenon.

Ian

Agreed - but the effect can't be changed to balance between the two rear axles and will be minimal. Trying to separate tandem axle weights at the weighbridge would be relatively difficult and, IMO, pointless.

 

[bigtwin]

Agreed - but the effect can't be changed to balance between the two rear axles and will be minimal. Trying to separate tandem axle weights at the weighbridge would be relatively difficult and, IMO, pointless.

Difficult, agreed; pointless, certainly not if one is over its limit.

Weight can always be moved around the MH to lighten an overloaded axle.

If checked by the Highways Agency, it would most likely be on drive over scales. They will weigh each axle.

Ian

 

[tonyidle]

Difficult, agreed; pointless, certainly not if one is over its limit.

I was arguing from the point of view of a first visit. If there is a critical difference between the two rears the front will certainly be light. Because they're so close together any overhang weight reduction to keep under the overall rear 'axle' limit will affect both almost equally: if the rear of the two is still overloaded the only option is to continue removing weight from behind them until both are OK. It's probably simpler to get the overall rear 'axle' weight correct then measure the suspension gaps. I just think that attempting to balance the rear load between the rear axles is overly difficult - not least because you need a totally level run-on to the weighbridge. And maybe a little OTT unless right on the overall rear axle limit.

 

[bigtwin]

I was arguing from the point of view of a first visit. If there is a critical difference between the two rears the front will certainly be light. Because they're so close together any overhang weight reduction to keep under the overall rear 'axle' limit will affect both almost equally: if the rear of the two is still overloaded the only option is to continue removing weight from behind them until both are OK. It's probably simpler to get the overall rear 'axle' weight correct then measure the suspension gaps. I just think that attempting to balance the rear load between the rear axles is overly difficult - not least because you need a totally level run-on to the weighbridge. And maybe a little OTT unless right on the overall rear axle limit.

Agreed, unless you’re at, or close to, the rear limit, a rough measure is sufficient.

Ian

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