EU Entry / Exit System - Date Checking (1 Viewer)

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Date stamps in my passport are a good reminder and solid record of time spent in the EU or elsewhere. When the EU system goes electronic how will passport holders be able to check their electronically recorded entry / exit dates at home?
 
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Hi.
I will have you know, i have to " Lean " to count above 10...up to 20......So he/they ? are not alone. As i have to take my shoes and socks off to do it. Its getting more difficult the older i get. Must get an " Askabus. ;). Missing letters out is a sign that the Brain is quicker than the fingers,at my age...... Everything is quicker than my fingers,cannot put my palms together anymore,tying slim shoe laces takes time.....:ROFLMAO:
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It's not only "lean"ing to count but knowing the exact dates to enable precise Schengen calculations 😁.
 
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At present passports are also scanned so there is an electronic record too as well as the date stamps which lets face it are not always legible
Yes but ordinary passport holders cannot access this information.
Also I've had no luck trying to find out if/when the ETIAS visa scheme finally launches I'll be able to access my travel record within the EU. Zero information on the ETIAS website.
 

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Date stamps in my passport are a good reminder and solid record of time spent in the EU or elsewhere. When the EU system goes electronic how will passport holders be able to check their electronically recorded entry / exit dates at home?
This is a time honoured way of doing it manually no passport or electronic device needed 😉👍

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This is a time honoured way of doing it manually no passport or electronic device needed 😉👍

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I'm fond of 5 bar gates for counting purposes myself - but there again I do write important personal info in my handbag diary, eg Eurotunnel UK 23.45 on the relevant date and then similar entry ET with a time on the date we'd booked the return crossing for. It isn't really complicated despite younger blokes apparently never having been trained properly by their mothers to do it.
 
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Yes but ordinary passport holders cannot access this information.
Also I've had no luck trying to find out if/when the ETIAS visa scheme finally launches I'll be able to access my travel record within the EU. Zero information on the ETIAS website.

The ETIAS information linked to above is this passage -

"I have residency status in an EU member country, yet based on the ETIAS requirements, it states I need an ETIAS. Does my residency status mean I don’t need ETIAS?​

No, if you hold a passport from a country where ETIAS is a requirement, you will need an ETIAS in 2023 regardless of your residency status in an EU member country. However, if you hold a passport or citizenship in another EU member country, you will not require an approved ETIAS."

This is contrary to the information I received about UK passport holders getting EU country residence under the Withdrawal Agreement, which stated that EU residence under the agreement exempted one from ETIAS.

I think several members on the forum with UK passports believe we are exempt from ETIAS.

Is it just that only UK passport holders with residence in EU are exempt and that this passage fails to include that information?
 
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The ETIAS information linked to above is this passage -

"I have residency status in an EU member country, yet based on the ETIAS requirements, it states I need an ETIAS. Does my residency status mean I don’t need ETIAS?​

No, if you hold a passport from a country where ETIAS is a requirement, you will need an ETIAS in 2023 regardless of your residency status in an EU member country. However, if you hold a passport or citizenship in another EU member country, you will not require an approved ETIAS."

This is contrary to the information I received about UK passport holders getting EU country residence under the Withdrawal Agreement, which stated that EU residence under the agreement exempted one from ETIAS.

I think several members on the forum with UK passports believe we are exempt from ETIAS.

Is it just that only UK passport holders with residence in EU are exempt and that this passage fails to include that information?
Anyone who is a beneficiary under the withdrawal agreement does not require an Etias.

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Do I need ETIAS if I have a residence permit?


ETIAS is a travel authorisation that covers nationals of visa-exempt countries coming to the EU for short-term stays. If you have a residence permit, residence card, or a document issued by any of the European countries requiring ETIAS which authorises your stay, you do not need an ETIAS travel authorisation.**

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/faqs-etias_en

click on "who should apply etc;"

the third one covers us. we have residence cards so nothing required.
 
Oct 12, 2009
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Anyone who is a beneficiary under the withdrawal agreement does not require an Etias.

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Do I need ETIAS if I have a residence permit?


ETIAS is a travel authorisation that covers nationals of visa-exempt countries coming to the EU for short-term stays. If you have a residence permit, residence card, or a document issued by any of the European countries requiring ETIAS which authorises your stay, you do not need an ETIAS travel authorisation.**

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/faqs-etias_en

click on "who should apply etc;"

the third one covers us. we have residence cards so nothing required.

That is what I understand but it conflicts with what is written in the passage I quoted, which does not refer to the Withdrawal Agreement.

How does one demonstrate that one's Residence Card was issued with respect to the Withdrawal Agreement? I cannot see it on the card, but then mine is written in Polish. Any pointers gratefully received.
 
Feb 23, 2021
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As I read it, all UK passport holders will need an ETIAS to enter the EU when the scheme goes live.

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Oct 12, 2009
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How does one demonstrate that one's Residence Card was issued with respect to the Withdrawal Agreement? I cannot see it on the card, but then mine is written in Polish. Any pointers gratefully received.

I now have the answer to that question from my Polish translator.

Just above one's signature is a line referring to the Withdrawal Agreement [Equivalent in Polish], starting with 'Art. 18 UST' but I do not know if that refers to EU legislation, or to Polish legislation.

I just hope that all border force officers are trained on this point and can translate the section from all languages.



On a different point the section in the Europa briefing, here -

"A national of the United Kingdom who is a beneficiary of the Withdrawal Agreement
UK nationals and their family members who are beneficiaries of the Withdrawal Agreement are exempt from ETIAS: they may reside on the territory of their EU host country and travel to other European countries requiring ETIAS as long as they hold documents proving their status."

The 'travel to other European countries' does not specify whether that is only from one EU country to another, or whether it also encompasses entry to an EU country from outside the EU.

Does anyone have more information on that point.

Sorry for digging deeper but the paragraph is not specific.
 
Aug 18, 2011
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Date stamps in my passport are a good reminder and solid record of time spent in the EU or elsewhere. When the EU system goes electronic how will passport holders be able to check their electronically recorded entry / exit dates at home?
Diary comes to mind,,that's how I do it now.BUSBY.
 
Jun 4, 2010
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Just write it on the wall callender like all the other appointments . If you haven,t got a callender the you must have a good memory or be young. etas does,nt start till november assuming they have finally got the tech right.
 
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