E Scooter instead of E Bike......?

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Does it make sense to go for the cheaper smaller lighter and more convenient e scooter rather than a conventional road type e bike....?
Has anyone gone down this road so to speak, thoughts , ideas?????
I'm thinking of large inflatable wheeled 'all terrain' scooters with a range of 30+km that fold and can be carried by hand and inside the MH.
 
You would need insurance and "road tax" and helmet for the scooter.

Ah you mean a scooter....not scooter (vespa)
 
I suppose it would make sense if you purchased what is referred to as an electric scooter (the illegal things in this country) if you had those all terrain tyres and got a seat to sit on so it looks like a proper e-motorbike.
30kms is probably its range if used economically but suspect it is less than 20 in real life and you might have to put 4 hours of battery charging into it and can only be used abroad.
But as Lenny says, good for popping to the shops or the beach but thats about it
 
Depends of course on what you want to do with it: I have a stand up e scooter from Pure Electric, bought it in Valencia 2 1/2 years ago after seeing how many there were on the streets, mine has a 50km range ( 15km running on full power , 25km on medium, 50km on snail setting), does 25kph...
Perfect for our MH, ideal when we go out and about as the missus has a wheelchair with an electric handbike attached, the scoot is ideal on half power, I don sit way above like on a bike and its easy to hop on and off to help up kerbs etc, I also use it for popping to the shops and around the campsite etc.
Legal here in the Fatherland: Germany has insurance but no helmet req, Spain req´s a helmet but not insurance, Italy treats them as bicycles, not sure about France but have used it in Paris.
If you are a channel hopper then it a useful toy and can be safely secured inside the MH, if you are mainly doing the UK or like to cycle then e bike it is.

Safe travels

Rob

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This will help with them in Spain. 😎
Personally I think they are dangerous you have to ride them on the road or cycle marked route, not footpaths. 🤔 Bob.
 
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bobandjanie said:

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This will help with them in Spain. 😎
Personally I think they are dangerous you have to ride them on the road or cycle marked route, not footpaths. 🤔 Bob.
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Two good articles, thanks Bob, the rules are being updated all the time and these articles help a lot to keep up to date.

A scooter suits me and does what I need it to and being law abiding is easy enough, unfortunately being able to buy something doesn´t confirm the ability to use it on to the purchaser, as always the numptys will spoil it for the rest of us.

Safe Travels
 
You can use scooters in the UK...if they are licenced (Type approval), road registered, insured, taxed (I think free) and the rider wears a road legal crash helmet. Some cities are doing trials to allow the use of them as is, but only in certain parts of said cities. I'm thinking e-bike is a lot less grief!
 
Agreed, if I lived in the UK then an e-bike it would be....far too much hassle for a scooter:)
 
Roby2008 said:
Agreed, if I lived in the UK then an e-bike it would be....far too much hassle for a scooter:)
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yeah but in general its not for use in the UK its for use while touring abroad........ we're not adverse to cycling as a couple of years ago we cycled ( foot powered) across France from Bordeaux to Sete. It's a question of convenience, cost and storage etc.
 
ianp said:
yeah but in general its not for use in the UK its for use while touring abroad........ we're not adverse to cycling as a couple of years ago we cycled ( foot powered) across France from Bordeaux to Sete. It's a question of convenience, cost and storage etc.
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Exactly the reasons why we are buying one, really about space saving and convenience for No3 daughter. Current favourite is from Decathlon but will look for a 2nd hand one as it won’t get used that much.
 
Forget E scooters,

E skateboards are the way forward, even more compact 😂

And relatively lightweight so can carry into a shop/pub/workplace etc

Has 10mile range, stupid speeds if required, damn good fun and extremely dangerous

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suavecarve said:
I suppose it would make sense if you purchased what is referred to as an electric scooter (the illegal things in this country)
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It's all very confusing. I have an electric scooter - as in a motorbike type scooter which you need tax, insurance, helmet, ride only on the road but it is powered by a battery/electric motor.

I call it a scooter because it is 50cc equivalent/limited to 30mph, so it's not really a motorbike but trying to explain is very complicated.

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VXman said:
It's all very confusing. I have an electric scooter - as in a motorbike type scooter which you need tax, insurance, helmet, ride only on the road but it is powered by a battery/electric motor.

I call it a scooter because it is 50cc equivalent/limited to 30mph, so it's not really a motorbike but trying to explain is very complicated.

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An escooter easily describes both
 
Bobby-gg said:
Forget E scooters,

E skateboards are the way forward, even more compact 😂

And relatively lightweight so can carry into a shop/pub/workplace etc

Has 10mile range, stupid speeds if required, damn good fun and extremely dangerous

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if only I was 15 years old again........
 
Kayak Kid said:
If like me you are a Scot, you may think that a Coopop is a Cow Fart or worse. Indeed it may well be known as that in some other parts of the UK🥴

However a Coopop is also a recently introduced road legal very lightweight motorcycle , which is a possible answer to those looking for such a vehicle to carry in or on their motorhome. As a motorcyclist for many years - having driven large bikes up to 1800cc - this little thing is a revelation.

I recently downsized from a large tag axle motorhome to one limited to 3.5T in order that my family can use it - given that they cannot drive vehicles above that weight. This means that I now don’t have the payload to take a towbar, rack and Honda PCX scooter that I carried in the past.

Ok, here are some of the basic info for the Coopop and details on the dealer.
  1. The vehicle is all electric with a charge time of 2 hrs, 30 miles range and max speed of 30mph. This means it is classed by the DVLA as a moped (equivalent to 50cc).
  2. It can be driven by anyone who passed their car driving test before 1 Feb 2001 - no L plates or CBT training are required. If you passed your car driving test after then, you need a CBT (lasting 5-7 hrs), but no L plates are required thereafter.
  3. It is designed to carry one person - albeit you might be able to squeeze on a pillion passenger.
  4. It weighs only 35kg without the battery(45kg with) and can be carried on the back of a motorhome Fiamma cycle rack. My rack has a max of 60kg load. Alternatively it will fit into most motorhome garages easily.
  5. It can carry a load of up to 150kg.
  6. The battery can be charged either on the bike or off using a 13 amp socket.
  7. It is driven by a 1200W Bosch electric motor, has road legal lighting and front/rear disc brakes.
  8. It comes with a 5 yr warranty subject to annual service.
  9. The cost for the Rugged model is £1999 +£55 for DVLA registration. The Cox model is £50 cheaper and has less off-road looking lights and tyres. it is zero Road Tax, low insurance and has no petrol costs. Delivery can be to anywhere in the UK for a modest additional cost - and comes ready to ride.
  10. As the bike is relatively new in this country some insurers do not yet have the bike on their database and will not quote until they have a registration number. BikeSure and Lexham however do have the bike on their system now and can give a quote online.
The company selling is called Biking Direct based in Scotland. They are a specialist motorcycle dealership with many years experience. As well as their dealership website (bikingdirect.com) they have a dedicated Coopop site (Coopop.co.uk) and presence on eBay (search Coopop) and Facebook.The moped is sold extensively in France and other mainland European countries under the branding of “Tilchap”. I have no association with the business at all - other than purchasing from them - but they are great to deal with.

I have attached a few photos of the bike including a few on the rear of my Motorhome. It is not strapped on as I intend to modify the rack to better suit the thicker tyres. There are more on the above websites and YouTube. The dimensions are: 1383mm (Length), 1059mm (Height to handle bars), 643mm (Width of handlebars), 734mm (Saddle height).

Well there you are - if you are interested, and looking for a unique little ‘runaround’ to ‘pop’ out for groceries etc, this might fit the bill for some. If you see yourself as a ‘Hells Angel’ or a ‘Harley Kid’ then this might not be for you.

My apologies for the amount of detail - but it might save some time for anyone seriously considering a purchase.

I hope this posting is helpful.

Jim
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This might be of interest from my posting last year. The post title is “What in the name is a Coopop” The company has a reasonably priced UK wide delivery service.

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This is something my hubby has been mythering on about ... We have e-bikes that are having a lovely relaxing holiday stuck in our MH garage not seeing the light of day! It doesn't help that we have so much crap in the garage that getting them out would take a good few minutes plus now with 3 pooches were even less likely to use them anyway.

He's seen a good few people riding e-scooters (no seat type) and thinks one would be better for us for popping out for stuff when on holiday.

The thing is that we rarely have to pop out for stuff so I can see one ending up having a nice long relaxing holiday after the novelty has worn off.

As I have a lovely little non-electric folding bike which would be suitable for any popping we needed to do I'm resisting his 'hints' ... In fact we do have a couple of normal type push scooters which fold but have never used, not sure how good they would be though as they only have small wheels and may not have the 'payload' for hubby since he's expanded! 😆

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Minxy said:
This is something my hubby has been mythering on about ... We have e-bikes that are having a lovely relaxing holiday stuck in our MH garage not seeing the light of day! It doesn't help that we have so much crap in the garage that getting them out would take a good few minutes plus now with 3 pooches were even less likely to use them anyway.

He's seen a good few people riding e-scooters (no seat type) and thinks one would be better for us for popping out for stuff when on holiday.

The thing is that we rarely have to pop out for stuff so I can see one ending up having a nice long relaxing holiday after the novelty has worn off.

As I have a lovely little non-electric folding bike which would be suitable for any popping we needed to do I'm resisting his 'hints' ... In fact we do have a couple of normal type push scooters which fold but have never used, not sure how good they would be though as they only have small wheels and may not have the 'payload' for hubby since he's expanded! 😆
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We got tempted to buy a couple last year after trying another Funsters ones in France last year, great fun. But did we really want to spend a 1000 quid on a couple that would after the novelty has worn off would just be more junk in the Motorhome garage.
Still keep getting tempted with them, but we don't use the E bikes enough as we often end up in the mountains.
 
Minxy said:
This is something my hubby has been mythering on about ... We have e-bikes that are having a lovely relaxing holiday stuck in our MH garage not seeing the light of day! It doesn't help that we have so much crap in the garage that getting them out would take a good few minutes plus now with 3 pooches were even less likely to use them anyway.

He's seen a good few people riding e-scooters (no seat type) and thinks one would be better for us for popping out for stuff when on holiday.

The thing is that we rarely have to pop out for stuff so I can see one ending up having a nice long relaxing holiday after the novelty has worn off.

As I have a lovely little non-electric folding bike which would be suitable for any popping we needed to do I'm resisting his 'hints' ... In fact we do have a couple of normal type push scooters which fold but have never used, not sure how good they would be though as they only have small wheels and may not have the 'payload' for hubby since he's expanded! 😆
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But but but an e-scooter would be so much more fun 🤩
 
Lenny HB said:
Still keep getting tempted with them, but we don't use the E bikes enough as we often end up in the mountains.
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Maybe an E-MTB would be good as an addition 😉
 
ianp said:
Does it make sense to go for the cheaper smaller lighter and more convenient e scooter rather than a conventional road type e bike....?
Has anyone gone down this road so to speak, thoughts , ideas?????
I'm thinking of large inflatable wheeled 'all terrain' scooters with a range of 30+km that fold and can be carried by hand and inside the MH.
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We’ve bought 2 from pure electric they are fabulous and don’t take up much room
 
PS i had a look yesterday at our local Decathlon so i could see them in the flesh and was quite surprised at just how big they are, also they didn’t fold down as small as i thought. Worth keeping in mind if space is tight.
 
Another one that has recently bought 2. We got ours from Moose.com as they sell customer returns, ex- display all things e-bike scooters etc. from various brands. Like others have said, great fun and I’ll be using mine more that my wife…..we are still trying to get her confidence up on them……so if you’re in Louth and on an industrial estate on a Sunday morning you’ll find me holding on to my wife running down the road and her shouting “DONT LET GO”…..we’ll get there……
 
Tude said:
We’ve bought 2 from pure electric they are fabulous and don’t take up much room
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How long have you had them? Do you use them much and for what purposes please? What alternative modes of getting around do you have / use?
 
Ridgeway said:
PS i had a look yesterday at our local Decathlon so i could see them in the flesh and was quite surprised at just how big they are, also they didn’t fold down as small as i thought. Worth keeping in mind if space is tight.
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Decathlon are fine but normally the kit is at the cheaper end. Not sure the price difference but here is one from Curry’s

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