Dog owners and EU travel (1 Viewer)

[Kevan]

I am a dog owner as many of you are, We have a place in south west France, but can not make plans till we know the outcome of Brexit,
it would be interesting to get the thoughts of other dog owners, that travel abroad,
could may be start with comment from the Ringleader.?

 

[138go]

We're doing Devon and Cornwall this year.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

We're doing Devon and Cornwall this year.

You may still need to be covered by new brexit regulations

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[maxi77]

We are staying in Portugal long enough we hope for them to sort out all this sh*t hopefully, so that we can bring back our two Portuguese passported dogs

 

[Larby]

I'm hoping to go in July. Haven't had blood test done so cutting fine.
If deal then no change? but if no deal perhaps a transition period?
Don't mind either way, please just DO IT whatever it is
So assume no deal, will every person going to and from France have an International driving permit on April 13th? will everyone have their green card to enter each country on 13th? will every dog arriving here have evidence of blood test on 13th?
Is it realistic that my dog entering France in a continent with rabies, will have to show that he is immune going from a country that doesn't have rabies

 

[Casper46]

We are due to leave for France on15th. Against my principles I have a green card, only because my insurance was due so NFU sent one with my renewal. I am also going to get an IDL just in case we have jumped off the cliff on 12th April. Hopefully Casper should be ok. I’m sure that they (EU) cannot implement all changes the day after any Hard B*****.
We will then have to decide if we apply for French residency, I sincerely hope it doesn’t come to that.

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[DBK]

There's been a lot of discussion on here about it if you search. Weve gone for the worst case and had the blood test and the mutt will get a fit to travel certificate in a couple of weeks so we will be ready to travel early May whatever the outcome. Got my 1968 IDP for France and Italy this week.
Still need to look at the Green Card. The insurers say their Insurance Certificate doubles as a green card but I'm unconvinced as it isn't green!

 

[Landy Andy]

If you have a house in France, can’t you just get your dog a French dog passport?

That way brexit doesn’t matter.

 

[Casper46]

If you have a house in France, can’t you just get your dog a French dog passport?

That way brexit doesn’t matter.

Yes, but it means starting from scratch again, and if it takes the same length of time we won’t be able to stay in France for the four months required as we will be limited to 90 days. Also it will mean a rabies inoculation every year.

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[ctc]

We're doing Devon and Cornwall this year.

When they find out the EU subsidy has gone there will be riots.

 

[Landy Andy]

Yes, but it means starting from scratch again, and if it takes the same length of time we won’t be able to stay in France for the four months required as we will be limited to 90 days. Also it will mean a rabies inoculation every year.

Do you need to stay there for four months? Or is it the same as the uk system, where you need the four months, before you can return?

And would getting a French one cancel the uk one. I was thinking it would be nice to have a dual passport situation.

 

[Tykatem]

I am a dog owner as many of you are, We have a place in south west France, but can not make plans till we know the outcome of Brexit,
it would be interesting to get the thoughts of other dog owners, that travel abroad,
could may be start with comment from the Ringleader.?

We decided some months ago that Brexit wasn't going to hold up our plans to travel whenever we want. we're going over to Greece in May, so as a precaution we had our 2 standard Poodles rabies innoculations (brought forward from Aug) done at the beginning of Jan. Then took them to the vets (30 days after rabies jabs) to give blood samples (titre test) and sent away for testing. The results came back 10 days later saying they had passed the titre test. They are now clear to travel in Europe 3 months after the test. 10 days before travelling, we need to take them back to the vets for them to issue official veterinary certificates. You must arrive in an EU country within 10 days of the date the certificate was issued. You can then use it for up to 4 months for travel within the EU........ There, simples
Having the blood test done also gives us the added benefit of being able to pop into Turkey and come back via Serbia.

Pete

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[Tykatem]

And would getting a French one cancel the uk one. I was thinking it would be nice to have a dual passport situation.

I believe that you can have a dual passport for pets and be legal, though your French vet may insist on giving your dog another rabies booster. see the link below.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity...passports-dual-nationality-brexit-mr-loophole

Pete

 

[gus-lopez]

will every dog arriving here have evidence of blood test on 13th?

Not needed to enter the Uk , Only need a " UK fitness to travel" certificate which don't exist at the moment.

If you have a house in France, can’t you just get your dog a French dog passport?

That way brexit doesn’t matter.

As above you only need the pet passport & something that doesn't exist at the moment.

 

[bonniechris]

i think Guy fawkes had a good plan

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[maison]

Our dog had her rabies jab in 2007 and her boosters have been kept up to date in her Passports. We still have the original blood test results certificate.

As the test was carried out by one of the EU approved laboratories our Vet has said that we should be in compliance with any requirements the EU are likely to impose, with the possible exception of a “fitness to travel” Vet declaration, if the U.K. leaves without a deal.

We are due to travel out on 30th April so we are now simply awaiting the outcome of the shambles in Parliament before making our final arrangements.

 

[Larby]

Not needed to enter the Uk , Only need a " UK fitness to travel" certificate which don't exist at the moment.

As above you only need the pet passport & something that doesn't exist at the moment.

My point was would a non UK dog need a blood test certificate and fitness to travel into the UK?

 

[GMLS]

We were planning on going to Italy this year but holding off making firm plans until we know the out come. Pretty frustrating, but Wales is also nice

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[Aly1]

I’ve booked the tunnel for June because it’s free cancellation. I’m not paying for a blood test my dog might not need. If we crash out I will just stay in the UK.

 

[gus-lopez]

My point was would a non UK dog need a blood test certificate and fitness to travel into the UK?

Which is what I replied to .The only thing a non UK dog,like mine, needs to enter the UK is a 'UK' fitness to travel certificate from an eu vet.They do not exist yet.
To EXIT the UK he needs the blood test the same as he does returning from Morocco.
he does not need a 'fitness to travel' certificate from the Uk according to my defra email reply.

 

[Larby]

Which is what I replied to .The only thing a non UK dog,like mine, needs to enter the UK is a 'UK' fitness to travel certificate from an eu vet.They do not exist yet.
To EXIT the UK he needs the blood test the same as he does returning from Morocco.
he does not need a 'fitness to travel' certificate from the Uk according to my defra email reply.

Ah, I misunderstood, as you quoted UK fitness certificate I assumed issued by the UK.
But we wait and we wait and we wait for a decision.

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[Tykatem]

My point was would a non UK dog need a blood test certificate and fitness to travel into the UK?

No........

Return to the UK
Your pet must have one of the following documents when returning to the UK:

• an EU pet passport (issued in the EU or in the UK prior to EU Exit)
• the animal health certificate issued in the UK used to travel to the EU (which you can use up to 4 months after it was issued)
• a UK pet health certificate (for travel into the UK only)

There will be no change to the current health preparations for pets entering GB from the EU after Exit.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

Which is what I replied to .The only thing a non UK dog,like mine, needs to enter the UK is a 'UK' fitness to travel certificate from an eu vet.They do not exist yet.

The only document your dog needs to enter the UK is one of the folling documents that i've listed above, taken from the UK Gov defra site
The health certificate DOES exist and can be downloaded from the official DEFRA website (see link below) by yourself or your Vet.
Deal or no deal..There will be no change to the current health preparations for pets entering GB from the EU after Exit.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...cats-and-ferrets-from-third-countries#history

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

This is document is also substantiated by the following EU legislation providing a link to the same Health certificate. under the paragraph "Health Certificate and Declaration"

https://ec.europa.eu/food/animals/pet-movement/eu-legislation/non-commercial-non-eu_en

Pete

 

[Shrimp]

We went down the route of the titre test for our dog in Dec. just in case as it’s a 4 month wait before you can leave the UK!
That’s in case of a Hard Brexit!
I still don’t know why one can’t travel after the all clear, one has to stay in UK for 4 months from start to finish!

 

[sdc77]

We just cancelled going across to Europe until Brexit has happened and we know where we stand. As soon as we know we will sort it and go back over.
In the meantime we will just tour the UK

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[Nirvanauk]

We just cancelled going across to Europe until Brexit has happened and we know where we stand. As soon as we know we will sort it and go back over.
In the meantime we will just tour the UK

Same here. We would normally be in the south of France by now but just heading over to Whitby for the week and the weather looks atrocious with snow, rain and wind. Oh well.

 

[gus-lopez]

The only document your dog needs to enter the UK is one of the folling documents that i've listed above, taken from the UK Gov defra site
The health certificate DOES exist and can be downloaded from the official DEFRA website (see link below) by yourself or your Vet.
Deal or no deal..There will be no change to the current health preparations for pets entering GB from the EU after Exit.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...cats-and-ferrets-from-third-countries#history

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

This is document is also substantiated by the following EU legislation providing a link to the same Health certificate. under the paragraph "Health Certificate and Declaration"

https://ec.europa.eu/food/animals/pet-movement/eu-legislation/non-commercial-non-eu_en

No that is specifically for dogs entering from a non -eu country first. Which mine isn't. The UK stated they require a health certificate to enter the UK FROM the EU, & defra told me that it does not exist.yet.My vet said the same.
Defra said yes that one can be used but then you are illegally stating that your dog has entered the eu from a non-eu country , which it hasn't, which could also cause you additional problems.

Having just re-read the latest on your link they have now removed the need for a 'UK certificate' to enter. & only the pet passport is necessary + the titre test to exit the UK.

UK nationals living in the EU
If you’re living in the EU and plan to travel with your pet using a UK-issued pet passport, you should speak to your local vet. They’ll be able to help you understand the impact of EU Exit and ensure you’re compliant with EU Pet Travel Regulations.

If you have a pet passport issued by an EU member state, you can use it to bring your pet to the UK.

You can also use it to return to the EU, as long as your pet has had a successful rabies antibody blood test. You must make sure the blood test is taken at least 30 days after the date of rabies vaccination.

If the blood sample is taken in the UK you must wait 3 months from the date the successful blood sample was taken before you travel back to the EU. You don’t have to wait the 3 months before travelling if your pet has a successful blood test before leaving the EU.

 

[Casper46]

Our dog had her rabies jab in 2007 and her boosters have been kept up to date in her Passports. We still have the original blood test results certificate.

As the test was carried out by one of the EU approved laboratories our Vet has said that we should be in compliance with any requirements the EU are likely to impose, with the possible exception of a “fitness to travel” Vet declaration, if the U.K. leaves without a deal.

We are due to travel out on 30th April so we are now simply awaiting the outcome of the shambles in Parliament before making our final arrangements.

I have just had Casper to the vets for his Rabies injection as his renewal would have fallen whilst we are away. The vet previously told me that his blood test 8 years ago would be ok. She has now had a change of heart. The certificate that will be required each time we travel (£35) gives 3 tick boxes. One is to say that the blood test was taken 30 days after the rabies inoculation. As 8 years ago the test was 21 days after inoculation she will only tick the box that says he has had a rabies jab, but no blood test. I don’t think she appreciated the Yorkshire “ how much?”

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[Spriddler]

Get it a French passport in France? If you can get there before it all goes 'Treats-up'.

 

[maison]

I have just had Casper to the vets for his Rabies injection as his renewal would have fallen whilst we are away. The vet previously told me that his blood test 8 years ago would be ok. She has now had a change of heart. The certificate that will be required each time we travel (£35) gives 3 tick boxes. One is to say that the blood test was taken 30 days after the rabies inoculation. As 8 years ago the test was 21 days after inoculation she will only tick the box that says he has had a rabies jab, but no blood test. I don’t think she appreciated the Yorkshire “ how much?”

What have you done about it? Just accepted the one tick box or are you having another blood test done?

That seems pointless as it would be 8 years after the vaccination.

I’m more confused again now.

 

[Littlewheels]

Which is what I replied to .The only thing a non UK dog,like mine, needs to enter the UK is a 'UK' fitness to travel certificate from an eu vet.They do not exist yet.
To EXIT the UK he needs the blood test the same as he does returning from Morocco.
he does not need a 'fitness to travel' certificate from the Uk according to my defra email reply.

Spot on. My Dog,Spanish Passport and had his Booster and Rabies which is yearly Spain and as I’m now returning to UK for a while I will have the Blood Test done when it’s 30 days after his injections.

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