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sad.y, another victim.
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Later ones automatically select neutral when you start the engine.It’s a pain, and when you start up again you get the warning to either push the brake down or put it in neutral to start it… I do have a habit of leaving it in neutral…
both the ones we've had do that then you select auto or reverse to move off.Later ones automatically select neutral when you start the engine.
Here is the handbook.This is really interesting, we didn't get a handbook containing information for the automatic, and can't find that information in the online manual, anyone got the page number Minxy anyone.
My 2014 didn't but 2017 does.both the ones we've had do that then you select auto or reverse to move off.
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I had a seperate supplement about the ComfortmaticThis is really interesting, we didn't get a handbook containing information for the automatic, and can't find that information in the online manual, anyone got the page number Minxy anyone.
Ours were/are 2016 and 2019My 2014 didn't but 2017 does.
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Beeping professional garages - Amazing it got as far as it did using DOT4 rather than ATF. Your garage will deny using the DOT 4 and just say it was contaminated by the clutch fluid so toughHi All, latest update.
Vehicle recovered to Fiat Dealer in Luxembourg. All OBD checks done with the pressure sphere on the Transmission Control Unit is showing 75 bar when should read 45 Bar. This lead to a question about the state of the Oil in the TCU. This was changed before my trip last July and it turns out that the servicing dealer used Dot 4 instead of the recommended Oil. Think this might be an issue !!!!
So Fiat dealer says TCU needs to be replaced as the seals will have been destroyed by the DOT4.
Cost of new unit €4000 plus and no longer available so special order.
My decision not being done in Lux and MH will be repatriated to UK under recovery insurance.
Just arrived back home after hiring a van in Lux to bring my Motorcycle and Hydra Trail Easylift trailer home with most of our stuff.
Got to return the Van to Lux on Friday.
Will be having an interesting meeting with the MD of the Servicing dealer tomorrow!!!
It seems that wayGood grief so possibly a mistake caused this then, what gets me is the complicated nature of this system but most of all the price to replace some of the parts, it’s bloody ridiculous.
Got the invoice with DOT4 at 2 litres. Questioned it at the time and they said DOT4 was equivalent.Beeping professional garages - Amazing it got as far as it did using DOT4 rather than ATF. Your garage will deny using the DOT 4 and just say it was contaminated by the clutch fluid so tough
OMGGot the invoice with DOT4 at 2 litres. Questioned it at the time and they said DOT4 was equivalent.
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At least you have it in writing they put the wrong fluid in.Got the invoice with DOT4 at 2 litres. Questioned it at the time and they said DOT4 was equivalent.
2 litres . Hopefully they spilled 1.9l on the workshop floor even after filling both reservoirs. Despite all the hoo hah it's a really simple job to change the fluids so not sure how garages get scared by their own shadow when asked to do it and get it so horribly wrong.Got the invoice with DOT4 at 2 litres. Questioned it at the time and they said DOT4 was equivalent.
Will keep you posted.Whoever did it may have become confused that the complete comfortmatic system has a number of different fluids/oils
Gearbox - a transmission oil
Gearbox hydraulics - A specific fluid, probably only available through Fiat, described in some manuals as including a "Dexron ATF additive"
Clutch hydraulic system - A DOT4 type fluid.
I know that initially (a few years ago) Adams Morey Portsmouth used a generic DOT4 for the clutch system, but now will only use Fiat's specific Tutela version just in case there is something special in it's composition.
It is the clutch hydraulic fluid that needs regular change as it is that which can get contaminated by the gearbox hydraulics if the seals in the TCU start to fail and in turn that affects the slave cylinder in the clutch itself.
One must suspect "your dealer" put the DOT4 fluid into the gearbox hydraulics side, especially if the invoice says they needed 2 litres of the stuff. My manual suggests only 0.050litres is the capacity of the clutch system and some 0.7litres for the activation system.
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I do hope so.2 litres . Hopefully they spilled 1.9l on the workshop floor even after filling both reservoirs. Despite all the hoo hah it's a really simple job to change the fluids so not sure how garages get scared by their own shadow when asked to do it and get it so horribly wrong.
Just to be a bit of a pedant but it's the seals in the Master/Slave unit that would need to be replaced. It may cause a bit of confusion if you ask for TCU seals as this is the electronic brain and sits where the clutch pedal normally lives. The Master/Slave unit is the equivalent of the clutch master cylinder in the manual van but it sits above the gearbox next to the hydraulic reservoir for the Comfortmatic solenoidsI do hope so.
I know Fiat Dealers can get it wrong and only go for replace with new and bugger the cost.
Next step is get her home and start investigation.
Think there will be a few calls to Simon Potter at Adams Morey in due course.
Has any one had experience of replacing the seals replaced in the TCU or reconditioning the unit?
Thanks dunnah01. Do you know if the Hydraulics are sealed unit?Just to be a bit of a pedant but it's the seals in the Master/Slave unit that would need to be replaced. It may cause a bit of confusion if you ask for TCU seals as this is the electronic brain and sits where the clutch pedal normally lives. The Master/Slave unit is the equivalent of the clutch master cylinder in the manual van but it sits above the gearbox next to the hydraulic reservoir for the Comfortmatic solenoids
Op lives on South Coast.....When will we find out which garage has done this Faux Pas, so we can avoid it, or double check if they’ve used the correct stuff?
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OMG, I gasped out loud when I read this. What a nightmare for you. Really, the main dealer should be expected to know the correct fluids to use and surely they've not got an excuse, especially as you questioned using the DOT4 and they insisted it was the right stuff.Hi All, latest update.
Vehicle recovered to Fiat Dealer in Luxembourg. All OBD checks done with the pressure sphere on the Transmission Control Unit is showing 75 bar when should read 45 Bar. This lead to a question about the state of the Oil in the TCU. This was changed before my trip last July and it turns out that the servicing dealer used Dot 4 instead of the recommended Oil. Think this might be an issue !!!!
So Fiat dealer says TCU needs to be replaced as the seals will have been destroyed by the DOT4.
Cost of new unit €4000 plus and no longer available so special order.
My decision not being done in Lux and MH will be repatriated to UK under recovery insurance.
Just arrived back home after hiring a van in Lux to bring my Motorcycle and Hydra Trail Easylift trailer home with most of our stuff.
Got to return the Van to Lux on Friday.
Will be having an interesting meeting with the MD of the Servicing dealer tomorrow!!!
ThanksJust to be a bit of a pedant but it's the seals in the Master/Slave unit that would need to be replaced. It may cause a bit of confusion if you ask for TCU seals as this is the electronic brain and sits where the clutch pedal normally lives. The Master/Slave unit is the equivalent of the clutch master cylinder in the manual van but it sits above the gearbox next to the hydraulic reservoir for the Comfortmatic solenoids
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