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As in a post by @Gromett I bought a cheap Chinese heater, tested it in the workshop all fine but it was bought for the MH so here are a few pic's of the install, The original plan was to fit it under the seat but some Plus & minus points changed my mind,
Plus points
closer to the diesel tank
closer to the leisure battery's
shorter hot air ducting
Minus Points
farther inboard = long exhaust
noise.

An outside locker lent itself to where the heater could live, it backs on to a cupboard inside which has a 5" gap under it, good for routing the hot air duct's under, access a little tricky but with a bit of thought where the outlet hole's were drilled & the return air hole went I could get my hand's in to connect it all together. I slide alloy ducting over the black tube to help insulate it,
Its work in progress not finished, some stuff is temporarily fitted OK
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Ps I bought another for the workshop :p
 

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Looks ok to me, but then I am hammer and a 4inch nail man. Haha. Be good to know how it goes with use over a period.
 
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As in a post by @Gromett I bought a cheap Chinese heater, tested it in the workshop all fine but it was bought for the MH so here are a few pic's of the install, The original plan was to fit it under the seat but some Plus & minus points changed my mind,
Plus points
closer to the diesel tank
closer to the leisure battery's
shorter hot air ducting
Minus Points
farther inboard = long exhaust
noise.

An outside locker lent itself to where the heater could live, it backs on to a cupboard inside which has a 5" gap under it, good for routing the hot air duct's under, access a little tricky but with a bit of thought where the outlet hole's were drilled & the return air hole went I could get my hand's in to connect it all together. I slide alloy ducting over the black tube to help insulate it,
Its work in progress not finished, some stuff is temporarily fitted OK
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Ps I bought another for the workshop :p

Very neat installation, just one concern the diesel fuel inlet looks to be very close to the Exhaust outlet with what appears to have no heat protection, a bit of firesleeve over the the rubber and plastic pipe would be my preferred option,
 
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Being a confirmed Eberspacher user and DIY installer I am interested in a few points.

How is this heater controlled / regulated? Does it rely on the temperature of the in-going air to monitor your habitation area temperature or is there an external thermostat?
In either instance does the in-going air for your installation just rely on the 'fit' of the cupboard (or lack of it) to bring air in from the habitation area? i.e. no piped in-going air duct.

Why do you say about a long exhaust as the exhaust does not need to reach the side of the vehicle it can end under the chassis provided that it faces the right direction?

How long is the wiring loom between heater and controller / modulator?

Did you fit silencers to the combustion air feed and exhaust (either or both)?

Was the metal hot air tube supplied and/or did you use that in preference to the reinforced paper type?

If you have experience of Eberspacher or Webasto diesel air heaters does this type seem noisier that those? Likewise noise from the fuel pump?

All in all was it significantly less expensive that the main stream types?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Re the above post, the pipe that is near the fuel in-put is the cold in-going combustion air pipe I think.

Rod
 
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Very neat installation, just one concern the diesel fuel inlet looks to be very close to the Exhaust outlet with what appears to have no heat protection, a bit of firesleeve over the the rubber and plastic pipe would be my preferred option,
The fuel feed pipe has not been cut to length or secured it's just pushed on to stop dirt getting in.
The exhaust & inlet still have to be fitted, its run with them fitted as the instructions for several week's in the workshop all fine, as did our Eberspacher in our race van for about 7 years which this is a copy of the Eberspacher.

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Being a confirmed Eberspacher user and DIY installer I am interested in a few points.

How is this heater controlled / regulated? Does it rely on the temperature of the in-going air to monitor your habitation area temperature or is there an external thermostat?
In either instance does the in-going air for your installation just rely on the 'fit' of the cupboard (or lack of it) to bring air in from the habitation area? i.e. no piped in-going air duct.

Why do you say about a long exhaust as the exhaust does not need to reach the side of the vehicle it can end under the chassis provided that it faces the right direction?

How long is the wiring loom between heater and controller / modulator?

Did you fit silencers to the combustion air feed and exhaust (either or both)?

Was the metal hot air tube supplied and/or did you use that in preference to the reinforced paper type?

If you have experience of Eberspacher or Webasto diesel air heaters does this type seem noisier that those? Likewise noise from the fuel pump?

All in all was it significantly less expensive that the main stream types?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Re the above post, the pipe that is near the fuel in-put is the cold in-going combustion air pipe I think.

Rod

The first 3 pic's show the return air flow vent.

Allegedly there is a temp sensor in the control unit.

The loom is quite long but I had to extend the pump wire's

As for exhaust I want it to go to the side of the MH (I've always fitted them that way (Eberspacher) )

Exhaust & inlet will have silencers fitted, I've made a absorption silencer for the exhaust but not got around the the induction yet.

I fitted the alloy tube over the supplied tube for insulation

Noise wise it about the same

This unit is an alloy casing one, more expensive but still only £158.00 against best part of a grand.
 
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Having seen quite a few cheap Chinese electrical items I would be very cautious about installing anything that was out of sight.
 
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Most all electrical items have Chinese components these days.
 

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Did you tap in to the fuel line or have a separate tank ?

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Did you tap in to the fuel line or have a separate tank ?
The sprinter 316 CDi has a auxiliary Eberspacher water heater to heat the engine from cold in extreme cold, its not used so used that supply, But on our 310D sprinter I put in a T piece, never had a problem, it would run on the move as well.
 
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Most all electrical items have Chinese components these days.

It’s not generally the components that are the problem. It’s the often complete lack of proper safety precautions in the design.

Check out Big Clive on Youtube for many examples:
 
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It’s not generally the components that are the problem. It’s the often complete lack of proper safety precautions in the design.

Check out Big Clive on Youtube for many examples:

That look's like a Christmas gift for the Outlaw's :whistle:
 

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