***Chase bank scam alert***

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Just to warning to any funsters who have a Chase account, I was the victim of an extremely plausible scam attempt today. Chase were exceptionally brilliant dealing with it, but I thought it worth sharing in case the scammers try it on with anyone else.

I had a call on my mobile from 0800 347 3331 from someone called Lewis Nembers who claimed to be from the Chase Bank fraud prevention team. He asked me if I had authorised payments to Amazon for £350 and to Argos for £1305. I said no. He asked if I’d shared my details with someone in Aberdeen, as the account was being accessed online from there. I said no. He asked if I had just made a payment of £77 to a firm called Powerleague Fives Ltd. I said no. He then told me that a request for authorisation for this payment would appear in the Chase app. It duly appeared. He asked me to double check and, if I hadn’t made the payment, to click on the “Decline payment” button, then freeze the card. This was to gain my trust.

He then said he’d need to take me through security and asked me for the current balance. I got suspicious and said I’d call Chase myself. He said that would be fine and gave me a reference number. He also said that there was currently a 40 minute wait and that I was welcome to call back but that fraudulent payments might be made in the mean time which they could not guarantee to refund. I continued the call.

He then transferred me to his “manager”, who gave his name as Nathaniel Clyne (I asked him to spell it). He told me that a scheduled payment of £9,250 was set up to leave my account at 4pm. They were u able to stop scheduled payments, but if a duplicate transaction were to be scheduled, then the payment would be stopped by the system. Smelling a very rotten rat by now, I refused. It was 1535 by now. I said I would call Chase myself. He said that would be fine. Please would I use the reference number previously given, but the wait time was now 50 mins and the payment would likely be taken before it was answered. I said that would be fine. (I knew there was only a double-digit sum in the account anyway).

Having called Chase, they confirmed that it was an extremely elaborate scam. The scrotes had obviously got hold of my card number and tried to push through a 3DS payment which they knew would come through on the app for authorisation, which, by advising me to decline, they figured would encourage me to trust them.

I’m very tech savvy and no mug, but was very nearly taken in by their ploy. Please do watch out, folks, if you get the same call. Chase confirmed that they will always send a message through the app with the caller’s name and asking if it is convenient to call. They never use the same number to call from. They never ask for any compromising details. Chase issued me a new account immediately and blocked all activity on the previous. Magic response.

Stay safe folks.
 
Just to warning to any funsters who have a Chase account, I was the victim of an extremely plausible scam attempt today. Chase were exceptionally brilliant dealing with it, but I thought it worth sharing in case the scammers try it on with anyone else.

I had a call on my mobile from 0800 347 3331 from someone called Lewis Nembers who claimed to be from the Chase Bank fraud prevention team. He asked me if I had authorised payments to Amazon for £350 and to Argos for £1305. I said no. He asked if I’d shared my details with someone in Aberdeen, as the account was being accessed online from there. I said no. He asked if I had just made a payment of £77 to a firm called Powerleague Fives Ltd. I said no. He then told me that a request for authorisation for this payment would appear in the Chase app. It duly appeared. He asked me to double check and, if I hadn’t made the payment, to click on the “Decline payment” button, then freeze the card. This was to gain my trust.

He then said he’d need to take me through security and asked me for the current balance. I got suspicious and said I’d call Chase myself. He said that would be fine and gave me a reference number. He also said that there was currently a 40 minute wait and that I was welcome to call back but that fraudulent payments might be made in the mean time which they could not guarantee to refund. I continued the call.

He then transferred me to his “manager”, who gave his name as Nathaniel Clyne (I asked him to spell it). He told me that a scheduled payment of £9,250 was set up to leave my account at 4pm. They were u able to stop scheduled payments, but if a duplicate transaction were to be scheduled, then the payment would be stopped by the system. Smelling a very rotten rat by now, I refused. It was 1535 by now. I said I would call Chase myself. He said that would be fine. Please would I use the reference number previously given, but the wait time was now 50 mins and the payment would likely be taken before it was answered. I said that would be fine. (I knew there was only a double-digit sum in the account anyway).

Having called Chase, they confirmed that it was an extremely elaborate scam. The scrotes had obviously got hold of my card number and tried to push through a 3DS payment which they knew would come through on the app for authorisation, which, by advising me to decline, they figured would encourage me to trust them.

I’m very tech savvy and no mug, but was very nearly taken in by their ploy. Please do watch out, folks, if you get the same call. Chase confirmed that they will always send a message through the app with the caller’s name and asking if it is convenient to call. They never use the same number to call from. They never ask for any compromising details. Chase issued me a new account immediately and blocked all activity on the previous. Magic response.

Stay safe folks.


Well done on sniffing the scam out. (y)

Here are the rules I recommend people follow to avoid most scams.
NEVER click on a link in an email.
NEVER take action based on an incoming phone call. ALWAYS get a phone number via an independent source and call them.

For instance if you get a call from bank X, Amazon or ebay. Look up their official number online or on any documentation they have sent through the post. Then call them on that number.


I am sorry to repeat this advice in so many posts. But for every "warning" of a scam I think I need to repeat it.

I repeat NEVER click on a link in an email. Never take action based on an incoming call. If they can't get you to do anything, they cannot scam you.
 
Spot on Gromett. Their use of a 3dS payment attempt in the app to gain trust was despicable though, and I worry that soooo many people might be taken in by it.
 
Spot on Gromett. Their use of a 3dS payment attempt in the app to gain trust was despicable though, and I worry that soooo many people might be taken in by it.
If you had refused to talk to them they wouldn't have been able to gain even this margin of trust. Once they get their foot in the door they can start playing some elaborate psychological games that even experienced security pro's have fallen for.

I strong recommend you stop them as soon as they have stated the company name. Then hang up. Then call the company directly. This way they cannot gain that first bit of false trust.

I do commend you for spotting the scam though and warning people here. Nice one (y)
 
Hence the detail I included to warn others…

They say the real deterrence to crime is a high likelihood of being caught. The problem is that it’s extremely unlikely. We can all do our bit by following @Gromett’s advice and also by reporting scam attempts to action fraud or text to 7726 on your mobile, which is the official UK Gov digital fraud line.

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I do security for a living (Internet servers) I recover hacked servers and do security audits to prevent hacks. This comes from running a hosting company starting back in the late 90's.

What got me interested in consumer security was partly this story below and seeing the number of my customers getting scammed and them blaming me. Having to explain to them what they did wrong got burdensome and tedious to be honest.
My advise became more and more succinct. To the point where it is literally now. Do NOT talk to anyone unless you instigated it.

You may find this an interesting story.

 
I do security for a living (Internet servers) I recover hacked servers and do security audits to prevent hacks. This comes from running a hosting company starting back in the late 90's.

What got me interested in consumer security was partly this story below and seeing the number of my customers getting scammed and them blaming me. Having to explain to them what they did wrong got burdensome and tedious to be honest.
My advise became more and more succinct. To the point where it is literally now. Do NOT talk to anyone unless you instigated it.

You may find this an interesting story.

Your sound advice do not talk is something we practice, whenever we get a call from a number we do not have saved as a contact, we remain silent until either they put the phone down or someone speaks and as soon as we hear them we terminate call and either way No. is blocked. Our family and friends understand and if I set up a new conversation with someone ( such as Shetland garage who is fitting new windscreen) I will save them to contacts so I can recognise them when they call again.
 
Just to warning to any funsters who have a Chase account, I was the victim of an extremely plausible scam attempt today. Chase were exceptionally brilliant dealing with it, but I thought it worth sharing in case the scammers try it on with anyone else.

I had a call on my mobile from 0800 347 3331 from someone called Lewis Nembers who claimed to be from the Chase Bank fraud prevention team. He asked me if I had authorised payments to Amazon for £350 and to Argos for £1305. I said no. He asked if I’d shared my details with someone in Aberdeen, as the account was being accessed online from there. I said no. He asked if I had just made a payment of £77 to a firm called Powerleague Fives Ltd. I said no. He then told me that a request for authorisation for this payment would appear in the Chase app. It duly appeared. He asked me to double check and, if I hadn’t made the payment, to click on the “Decline payment” button, then freeze the card. This was to gain my trust.

He then said he’d need to take me through security and asked me for the current balance. I got suspicious and said I’d call Chase myself. He said that would be fine and gave me a reference number. He also said that there was currently a 40 minute wait and that I was welcome to call back but that fraudulent payments might be made in the mean time which they could not guarantee to refund. I continued the call.

He then transferred me to his “manager”, who gave his name as Nathaniel Clyne (I asked him to spell it). He told me that a scheduled payment of £9,250 was set up to leave my account at 4pm. They were u able to stop scheduled payments, but if a duplicate transaction were to be scheduled, then the payment would be stopped by the system. Smelling a very rotten rat by now, I refused. It was 1535 by now. I said I would call Chase myself. He said that would be fine. Please would I use the reference number previously given, but the wait time was now 50 mins and the payment would likely be taken before it was answered. I said that would be fine. (I knew there was only a double-digit sum in the account anyway).

Having called Chase, they confirmed that it was an extremely elaborate scam. The scrotes had obviously got hold of my card number and tried to push through a 3DS payment which they knew would come through on the app for authorisation, which, by advising me to decline, they figured would encourage me to trust them.

I’m very tech savvy and no mug, but was very nearly taken in by their ploy. Please do watch out, folks, if you get the same call. Chase confirmed that they will always send a message through the app with the caller’s name and asking if it is convenient to call. They never use the same number to call from. They never ask for any compromising details. Chase issued me a new account immediately and blocked all activity on the previous. Magic response.

Stay safe folks.
Brilliant post, many thanks for highlighting this. 👍
 
All I get is the old chestnut about my apple pay being compromised. As I don't use anything apple its an easy spot. That Chase one is quite clever though, I expect they've caught more than a few.
 
We are with Tesco Bank. Couple weeks ago we were near Croydon for our Grandsons wedding . When got home we had several telephone calls from Tesco Fraud department. I was a little worried so I did not reply. Then an hour later we received an email from Tesco asking us to ring them, which I did. After answering a few security questions. I was asked by them “had I bought anything for one pound!,” I said no , they told me that someone had got hold of my card. They told me that thieves try putting a pound through if that does not get noticed they start putting I bigger amounts. They stopped our cards and sent new ones. Well done Tesco Fraud Department.

Colyboy

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We are with Tesco Bank. Couple weeks ago we were near Croydon for our Grandsons wedding . When got home we had several telephone calls from Tesco Fraud department. I was a little worried so I did not reply. Then an hour later we received an email from Tesco asking us to ring them, which I did. After answering a few security questions. I was asked by them “had I bought anything for one pound!,” I said no , they told me that someone had got hold of my card. They told me that thieves try putting a pound through if that does not get noticed they start putting I bigger amounts. They stopped our cards and sent new ones. Well done Tesco Fraud Department.

Colyboy

Well done to both you and Tesco. Both handled this brilliantly.
 

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