Apache 700 trauma gas fire, where is the air intake? (1 Viewer)

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Last night was quite windy. The gas fire would not light and today it is fine. I think the wind was blowing the flames out, it would work for a while then tick and attempt to relight. Eventually the carbon monoxide alarm sounded.

Got home today and everything is working fine. Any ideas why this happened as I want to avoid the situation again. I assume it was windy and this had something to do with it.

I have looked under the van but cant see where the intake for air is. I thought of making a cowl around the intake as a precaution but cant find anything that looks like a vent.
Any ideas anyone?
Cliff
 
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irnbru

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Last night was quite windy. The gas fire would not light and today it is fine. I think the wind was blowing the flames out, it would work for a while then tick and attempt to relight. Eventually the carbon monoxide alarm sounded.

Got home today and everything is working fine. Any ideas why this happened as I want to avoid the situation again. I assume it was windy and this had something to do with it.

I have looked under the van but cant see where the intake for air is. I thought of making a cowl around the intake as a precaution but cant find anything that looks like a vent.
Any ideas anyone?
Cliff
Yes you need a flue extension on the roof. We too used to have the same problem with our apache. Solved now. They aren't that expensive , around £10-12

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Truma-ca...h=item286cd1f540:g:PHkAAMXQ9rVQ5XFs:rk:1:pf:0
 
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irnbru

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Thanks for this. Any idea why / how this thing works to solve the windy days situation?

Seems strange to extend the cowl and things work ok again.
Yes the cowl needs to sit higher than the sides otherwise it creates a wind tunnel. Took us long enough to find it out.

Trust me, it works(y)
 

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Thanks for the replies.

Just to keep you informed, i ordered the chimney extension and will let you know if it works.

Marquis are very interested in this and have asked for photos so they can contact Auto-trail on my behalf.

I often read negative reports on Marquis but I have only praise for their help when needed. So much so that van was booked in next day to solve a problem.

Out of interest, these are the photos of the chimney below the sides of the van.

I hope it helps others to solve the problem!
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irnbru

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Marquis are very interested in this and have asked for photos so they can contact Auto-trail on my behalf.

Autotrail are aware of the problem, they just choose to do nowt about it.

i ordered the chimney extension and will let you know if it works.

He who has little faith:LOL: Of course it will work.
 

tonka

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My 700 came with the higher flue as standard (2012). Raised a few comments off some motorhomes are to why I had such a "big one".. :D Maybe they just ran out of the standard one's and they knew mine was special.

7 years on and the fire has always worked rain, WIND and Snow.. (y)(y)(y)

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Thanks for the replies.

Just to keep you informed, i ordered the chimney extension and will let you know if it works.

Marquis are very interested in this and have asked for photos so they can contact Auto-trail on my behalf.

I often read negative reports on Marquis but I have only praise for their help when needed. So much so that van was booked in next day to solve a problem.

Out of interest, these are the photos of the chimney below the sides of the van.

I hope it helps others to solve the problem!
View attachment 277328
View attachment 277329

That flue terminal should be higher than the awning casing.

John.
 

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