Another Pipe Dream ? Or.........? (1 Viewer)

[EuroTrotters]

Bergen Cruise Line Plans To Reinstate Norway-England Ferries

A startup Norwegian company has announced plans to launch a regular car, passenger and cargo ferry link between England and the west coast of Norway.

www.forbes.com

 

[dunnah01]

Depends if you're watching tonights Euro football match

 

[EuroTrotters]

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[dash300]

Who would want to be the Ladies Norwegian goalie!

 

[dash300]

Anyway; yes nice idea and would welcome it, but is Norway a sufficient 'go to' destination draw for a non cargo ferry? If cargo/commercial as well I think it would be more than a 'pipe dream'.

Edit : I would also add that it's green credentials whilst laudable would not currently be a sufficient USP in my view to make much of a difference to the tourist client they are foussing on.

 

[Speve]

Wouldn’t even help if trying to avoid 90 day stamp as Norway is a schengen country? IMV don’t think enough folk would want to use it

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[EuroTrotters]

When we used to go to Norway, we were usually the only motorhome on the ship. That was often the same for Brittany Ferries.

Look what’s in the queue for BF now !

 

[Orion]

Anyway; yes nice idea and would welcome it, but is Norway a sufficient 'go to' destination draw for a non cargo ferry? If cargo/commercial as well I think it would be more than a 'pipe dream'.

Edit : I would also add that it's green credentials whilst laudable would not currently be a sufficient USP in my view to make much of a difference to the tourist client they are foussing on.

Yup, don’t believe it would work without a sound commercial Ro-Ro formula to underpin it. Let’s look at what has come before (and been withdrawn) and what is current.

DFDS had, on the face of it, a very popular and well subscribed route into the Scandi region with its Harwich to Esbjerg ferry - which was apparently not profitable, although every time I sailed on it over many years was full to capacity!

DFDS currently operates a commercial Ro-Ro sailing between Immingham and Gothenburg, Sweden, which has limited (12 cabins IIRC from the last time we travelled) availability for drivers and non-commercial passengers - read MoHo or similar vehicles.

IMHO there is no way that they would generate enough passenger traffic direct to Norway to sustain a business - and its not as if others haven’t floated the idea on more potentially profitable routes between the U.K. and Denmark before and it’s come to nothing.

If DFDS can’t make it happen then this ‘pie in the sky’ statement sums it up for me:

“Before travelers get too excited, BCL still needs to raise the funding required to see the project become a reality. Work to raise the shipbuilding costs of approximately 2.1 billion Norwegian kroner ($206 million) begins soon.”

 

[Jo662]

There are a few YouTubers in Norway at the moment,and looks good!

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[Bailey58]

It's been discussed on our Harwich to Esbjerg ferry Facebook forum and while many welcome any link to Scandi it's not the most useful. With a stopover in Hirtshals added it would open up Denmark and Sweden for a wider travelling public. DFDS took over most of these old routes before closing them down.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I wonder how many people would love to cruise the Norwegian fjords, without having to fly.

They could sail to Bergen, then join a Hurtigruten ship.

I seem to recall the old route was also popular with Norwegians.

 

[jongood]

Here's another alternative thats already running

https://hollandnorwaylines.com/times-rates/

Just put in a random crossing in Septmber comes up at about 850 euros one way, 1400 return

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[Reallyretired]

I wonder how many people would love to cruise the Norwegian fjords, without having to fly.

They could sail to Bergen, then join a Hurtigruten ship.

I seem to recall the old route was also popular with Norwegians.

They already run no fly cruises to the fjordsfrom Southampton.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Here's another alternative thats already running

https://hollandnorwaylines.com/times-rates/

Just put in a random crossing in Septmber comes up at about 850 euros one way, 1400 return

I’ve posted that one a few times. All very expensive. And the forum think Brittany Ferries are expensive

 

[jongood]

They already run no fly cruises to the fjordsfrom Southampton.

With 3 days at sea and very limited itinerary though.

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[Bailey58]

Here's another alternative thats already running

https://hollandnorwaylines.com/times-rates/

Just put in a random crossing in Septmber comes up at about 850 euros one way, 1400 return

And doing very well apparently with next year's schedule set to run much more frequently but we still have to factor in the return trip to Amsterdam/Rotterdam or the channel. A similar route to Gothenburg was announced at the same time as H/N Line. The NoSwed Line which appears to be floundering if not sunk altogether.

 

[Tonks]

Here's another alternative thats already running

https://hollandnorwaylines.com/times-rates/

Just put in a random crossing in Septmber comes up at about 850 euros one way, 1400 return

My last crossing of a similar length across the North Sea, from Bergen to Germany resulted in the worst seasickness I've ever suffered (and I lived on a ship for two years), so I'll take the drive up Denmark and the shorter crossing from there - or even via Sweden across the bridges!

 

[Ninjabob]

Stunning country for scenery - just don't think about buying a sandwich when you get there. Take Pot Noodles and M&S tinned curry

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[Reallyretired]

With 3 days at sea and very limited itinerary though.

Possibly. I wouldn't find that a problem. Our usual cruises are Caribbean no fly ones with 5-6 days at sea. In fact I prefer the journey to he arrival and would be quite happy with 20 days at sea, though I realise this may not be a popular idea.

 

[jongood]

Possibly. I wouldn't find that a problem. Our usual cruises are Caribbean no fly ones with 5-6 days at sea. In fact I prefer the journey to he arrival and would be quite happy with 20 days at sea, though I realise this may not be a popular idea.

Tbh thats whats prevented me from doing a fjords cruise. I tried a carribean cruise and after the first day and a half at sea I was ready to jump over the side. And yes each to their own.

 

[Reallyretired]

Important to choose the right ship for a cruise. Like campsites must be adults only. Good food, multiple bars and excellent service. Lots of formal nights so swmbo can dress up (I am probably unusual in having five dinner suits) Good weather is a plus and to a large extent if you've seen one Caribbean Island you've seen them all.

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[dash300]

Important to choose the right ship for a cruise. Like campsites must be adults only. Good food, multiple bars and excellent service. Lots of formal nights so swmbo can dress up (I am probably unusual in having five dinner suits) Good weather is a plus and to a large extent if you've seen one Caribbean Island you've seen them all.

Formal nights for us are a trial to be endured. Not being a dandy I manage with one DJ. When one sees the tatooed leviathons laid out on the deck in the sun the image is imprinted and any number of Dinner Suits cannot erase that image. I am happy with reasonable dress codes and my wife does love dressing up, and that is not confined to Formal Nights. I am quite happy to wear a blazer collar and tie for Dinner but DJ's surely have had their day on what is effectively in most cases a resort cruise however sold!

 

[jongood]

Important to choose the right ship for a cruise. Like campsites must be adults only. Good food, multiple bars and excellent service. Lots of formal nights so swmbo can dress up (I am probably unusual in having five dinner suits) Good weather is a plus and to a large extent if you've seen one Caribbean Island you've seen them all.

This couldnt be further away from what I want to do

 

[nicholsong]

Important to choose the right ship for a cruise. Like campsites must be adults only. Good food, multiple bars and excellent service. Lots of formal nights so swmbo can dress up (I am probably unusual in having five dinner suits) Good weather is a plus and to a large extent if you've seen one Caribbean Island you've seen them all.

Have you grown out of 4 of them eating al that cruise food?

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[cyberyacht]

I've found sea days, certainly on Cunard, are almost busier than days ashore. Lectures, concerts, films and that's without going for a leisurely coffee and a couple of laps of the deck to get your steps up.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Important to choose the right ship for a cruise. Like campsites must be adults only. Good food, multiple bars and excellent service. Lots of formal nights so swmbo can dress up (I am probably unusual in having five dinner suits) Good weather is a plus and to a large extent if you've seen one Caribbean Island you've seen them all.

5 DJ,s do you pay your way as a ‘maitre’d ?

 

[Orion]

5 DJ,s do you pay your way as a ‘maitre’d ?

Sommelier surely?

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