A new Phoenix, looks a bit Morelo-ish

[sallylillian]

Phoenix were our initial contenders to replace the Flair, they are very a la carte in their floorplans and we could have got a slide out. I like the construction and if you went HGV the quality of materials becomes less weight controlled. They use Victron another plus. But, and it's a big but the design is more 80's than 2020. Both inside but definitely outside.
A one month old example on a MAN is here. I think if I had seen this my debate with Phoenix would have got past first base and further.

 

[nicholsong]

The outside design would not worry me much if I got everything I wanted inside and the spec was right re weight, power, performance etc.

 

[jongood]

Phoenix were our initial contenders to replace the Flair, they are very a la carte in their floorplans and we could have got a slide out. I like the construction and if you went HGV the quality of materials becomes less weight controlled. They use Victron another plus. But, and it's a big but the design is more 80's than 2020. Both inside but definitely outside.
A one month old example on a MAN is here. I think if I had seen this my debate with Phoenix would have got past first base and further.View attachment 339210View attachment 339211View attachment 339212

Interesting that its on MAN, I dont think Concorde or Morelo offer that choice.

 

[Hymer Life]

Imitation is the greatest compliment!

And, I see it's parked next to a Morelo.

 

[sallylillian]

That's true Jon, Morelo used too but moved to Mercedes. I understood the issue revolved around the Euro 6 compliance which had MAN installing a DPF (think that's it) which is heat intensive on the gearbox, this positioned it right under the front cab floor introducing heat and creating level flooring issues.
Phoenix do not have the same issue as they work with a higher floor level, funflair can discuss why. This I noticed when I was looking at this Phoenix garage entrance where the floor must be 10cm or more higher than mine.
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[JockandRita]

80's styling or not, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like that. A Pheonix on an MAN. That's surely got to be the dog's doo dahs quality wise.

It'd do for me............................but not my bank account.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[sallylillian]

Imitation is the greatest compliment!

And, I see it's parked next to a Morelo.

Do you think it is a close copy in principle?

 

[sallylillian]

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80's styling or not, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like that. A Pheonix on an MAN. That's surely got to be the dog's doo dahs quality wise.

It'd do for me............................but not my bank account.

Cheers,

Jock.

Jock I don't think 80s is where they are now was where I was at. Does look aggressive in the flesh.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

If you crave a MAN chassis, just buy a Ketterer Continental and be done with it, but make sure you upgrade the Smart car to a Brabus or you will just look a wannabe! ? ?

 

[funflair]

View attachment 339231

80's styling or not, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like that. A Pheonix on an MAN. That's surely got to be the dog's doo dahs quality wise.

It'd do for me............................but not my bank account.

Cheers,

Jock.

And me Jock.

Martin

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[Hymer Life]

View attachment 339231

80's styling or not, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like that. A Pheonix on an MAN. That's surely got to be the dog's doo dahs quality wise.

It'd do for me............................but not my bank account.

Cheers,

Jock.

The more you look at it the nicer it becomes. I do like the chunky wheels (like on the Merc, Michael).

When I win the next big £167m Euro-Millions roll-over, Jock I'll order one for you!

 

[Hymer Life]

Do you think it is a close copy in principle?

Totally! All the cues are Morelo styling or, they're all using the same supplier for their OEM bolt-ons and that's the result.

 

[CazPaul]

How much approximately?

250,000 euros roughly?

 

[sallylillian]

How much approximately?

250,000 euros roughly?

The guy was Spanish, we managed to exchange that his was 10 ton mine was 12, discussing the intricacy of how much it cost was well outside the scope of our communication.?

 

[jongood]

How much approximately?

250,000 euros roughly?

I reckon you could add at least another 50K for the chassis

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[funflair]

How much approximately?

250,000 euros roughly?

That wouldn't even get you the basic vehicle to start adding options to €280k for a 4 cylinder €320k for a 6 cylinder then at least €60k worth of extras at a guess.

Go to PhoeniX web site Paul there is a configurator, have fun

Martin

 

[nicholsong]

If you crave a MAN chassis, just buy a Ketterer Continental and be done with it, but make sure you upgrade the Smart car to a Brabus or you will just look a wannabe! ? ?

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Coming up the mountain road to an Aire near you - I think not.

 

[eddie]

Looks very much a early nineties Yank

 

[JockandRita]

When I win the next big £167m Euro-Millions roll-over, Jock I'll order one for you!

What a jolly decent sort you are. I look forward to accepting your kind offer, in the not too distant future hopefully, eh?.....................................................................

Jock.