Bladders too big for our boots

[dazandandrea]

I can last 6 or 7 days on one cassette, just me though.

I prefer normal food

 

[Minxy]

I'm a big fan of the nocturnal pee bottle.

You can get those large water bottles people use in gyms which tend to have a wide opening, hold a couple of litres and for some reason are often tinted black which makes walking around with a bottle full of pee a little bit less obvious.

There's normally somewhere you can take them to empty them during the day and that extends the time before needing to empty the toilet enormously.

Hubby has a couple of piddle bottles:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17677617...pid=5339023013&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

I have a large ex-drinking chocolate tub a similar shape to the below, due to the shape it allows it to be held 'where it's needed' but holds a fair bit.

 

[Bonsaiman]

I have to say this thread has opened my eyes to the many and varied toilet related going ons that occur within the private confines of a motorhome and to some not so private external going ons too

 

[fishplug]

Hubby has a couple of piddle bottles:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17677617...pid=5339023013&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

I have a large ex-drinking chocolate tub a similar shape to the below, due to the shape it allows it to be held 'where it's needed' but holds a fair bit.

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Mrs fishplug uses one of these which are great from a usability point of view, but the cap doesn't really fully seal so needs emptying or transferring to another container before driving...

 

[Minxy]

Mrs fishplug uses one of these which are great from a usability point of view, but the cap doesn't really fully seal so needs emptying or transferring to another container before driving..

Yes, I did consider one of those but wasn't happy with the need to remove the adaptor to put the cap on it, the hot chocolate container I use works perfectly and the top screws on very securely so even if it falls over it doesn't leak.

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[Millcourt]

Hubby has a couple of piddle bottles:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17677617...pid=5339023013&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

I have a large ex-drinking chocolate tub a similar shape to the below, due to the shape it allows it to be held 'where it's needed' but holds a fair bit.

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Too much information! I will never again be able to enjoy a Cadbury’s Milk Chocolate Drink.

 

[Minxy]

If it's any consolation it isn't a Cadburys container, it was one of the foreign ones but I can't remember the brand.

 

[CAB96]

If it's any consolation it isn't a Cadburys container, it was one of the foreign ones but I can't remember the brand.

The mind boggles at the thought of what set of circumstances led to the purchase and / or emptying and / or retrieving from the bin

Perhaps best left unsaid

 

[The Old Man]

I can last 6 or 7 days on one cassette, just me though.

+1

 

[Minxy]

The mind boggles at the thought of what set of circumstances led to the purchase and / or emptying and / or retrieving from the bin

Perhaps best left unsaid

Ah, well, seeing as you 'asked' ... the tub was originally full of hot chocolate powder but when we'd used it I realised it was a good sized container to put my phone etc in when I went our for a paddle in my kayak, so it was kept for that purpose. Fast forward to summer last year when we were staying in spots for longer so our toilet was getting full, hubby used his pee bottles and although I could use them it wasn't ideal so I cut down a 4lt plastic milk bottle to use as a 'pee catcher' but it was a nuisance having to keep emptying it into a pee bottles each time.

Fortunately I went out for a paddle in my kayak and realised I had the tub ... ah-ha! I know what that'll be good for I thought!!! As they say the rest is history!

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[PP Bear]

Ah, well, seeing as you 'asked' ... the tub was originally full of hot chocolate powder but when we'd used it I realised it was a good sized container to put my phone etc in when I went our for a paddle in my kayak, so it was kept for that purpose. Fast forward to summer last year when we were staying in spots for longer so our toilet was getting full, hubby used his pee bottles and although I could use them it wasn't ideal so I cut down a 4lt plastic milk bottle to use as a 'pee catcher' but it was a nuisance having to keep emptying it into a pee bottles each time.

Fortunately I went out for a paddle in my kayak and realised I had the tub ... ah-ha! I know what that'll be good for I thought!!! As they say the rest is history!

Needs to be on your Christmas list me finks….

PeeSport New Women's Pee Device: Pee Funnel & Bottle In One!

The new female urination device that combines a female pee funnel and pee bottle into one. Pee standing up into a beautiful reservoir. The new female pee device.

peesport.com

 

[Minxy]

Needs to be on your Christmas list me finks….

Er, thanks but no thanks!

At least with a HC tub I can replace it cheaply (and enjoy the original contents first ) plus it stands up on it's own - I've no idea where I'd put the one you've linked to in the MH to stop it tipping over and I have doubts about how easy it would be to keep it really clean due to the 'concertina' bit. Plus hubby might get an inferiority complex!

 

[interbear]

Interesting thread. 3 days typically for our cassette toilet.

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s. Surely the reason for an onboard toilet is to use it for exactly that purpose, especially during the night or early in the morning to avoid traipsing in the rain to a campsite loo?

That said, we still debate whether or not to use the onboard cassette toilet for #1s only or for everything. Current policy is #1s only and it’s served us well, but when we venture more off grid in future that will likely change. Although we do still have a “bivvy loo” from our previous VW campervan days, that’s another option.

 

[KNWH]

We keep a spare cassette in a plastic lidded container in the garage (IKEA did one ideal for our size)
I know you have no garage, but you could maybe keep it inside whilst travelling (the outside of the container can be kept clean and sanitary) and put it outside when parked up.
A coloured or opaque container would mean it wasn’t obvious what it was.

 

[quentinsf]

I do a quick flush before using, with the idea that things might be less likely to stick to the bowl then, and so require less flushing afterwards! I don't know how that works out in terms of overall capacity, though...
Our cassette tends to last several days, but we do make use of every opportunity to visit loos in cafes, NT properties, etc as well...

For those not used to it, the idea of having used loo paper anywhere other than flushed down the loo is a nasty one, but I've just come back from Greece where having a bin next to the loo for that purpose is normal, even in smart hotels, and, surprisingly, odours are not an issue! I imagine it does make the whole sewage management process much easier, too. However, we're British, dammit, and I won't have such foreign practices in my van! ...

On a related note, we've always found tablets to be much more convenient than the liquid chemicals, because you can just drop one in from above. (The chemicals are meant to go in via the cassette spout.) I think the instructions say you're meant to add 1.5 litres of water with the tablet, but I probably use about half that. If we know we're going to be using it again soon, I tend to leave a little clean water in the cassette after emptying it.

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[CA]

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s. Surely the reason for an onboard toilet is to use it for exactly that purpose, especially during the night or early in the morning to avoid traipsing in the rain to a campsite loo?

Thats easy. Whilst you, it appears, stay on campsites. We only visit one (in the UK) approximately once every 10 days to two weeks for one night. Our electric systems are ‘unlimited’ when managed right, gas lasts months at a time, and water around 10 days. So the toilet that filled completely after 3 days was the limiting factor. Change this to around 10 days and thats off grid for you…..

Obviously in France for instance the availability of aires with service points means we never stay in a campsite but can also empty the toilet more regularly so the pee bottles not used as much.

 

[Jon Stewart]

What's the need for a bottle of it's going into the hedge anyway?

Difficult to pee into a hedge when you're driving at 60mph.

Not impossible, but difficult!

 

[Minxy]

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s. Surely the reason for an onboard toilet is to use it for exactly that purpose, especially during the night or early in the morning to avoid traipsing in the rain to a campsite loo?

It depends on where you stay and the availability of emptying facilities, we never do campsites and sometimes are settled in a spot for up to 5 days (not in restricted duration places or busy ones) and the cassette won't last that long if we use it all the time so the bottles mean we can go much longer before we have to move to do housekeeping. Overnight is the only time we tend to use the cassette as it's not worth the risk of 'missing' when half asleep!

 

[interbear]

Thats easy. Whilst you, it appears, stay on campsites. We only visit one (in the UK) approximately once every 10 days to two weeks for one night. Our electric systems are ‘unlimited’ when managed right, gas lasts months at a time, and water around 10 days. So the toilet that filled completely after 3 days was the limiting factor. Change this to around 10 days and thats off grid for you…..

Obviously in France for instance the availability of aires with service points means we never stay in a campsite but can also empty the toilet more regularly so the pee bottles not used as much.

OK that indeed makes sense if you travel mostly off grid or not on campsites.

 

[interbear]

It depends on where you stay and the availability of emptying facilities, we never do campsites and sometimes are settled in a spot for up to 5 days (not in restricted duration places or busy ones) and the cassette won't last that long if we use it all the time so the bottles mean we can go much longer before we have to move to do housekeeping. Overnight is the only time we tend to use the cassette as it's not worth the risk of 'missing' when half asleep!

Yep I get it now. For off grid use it makes sense.

One other thing to consider of course is the type of fluid used in a cassette toilet. We use Solbio which can be emptied in any public toilet as it’s organic and biodegradable, not chemical, so no need for a campsite or Elsan waste disposal point.

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[Widge]

Maybe this is the answer, with added benifits.
Urine as an energy source.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/268006168.pdf

 

[CAB96]

IMaybe this is the answer, with added benifits.
Urine as an energy source.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/268006168.pdf

From one litre of urine we can get enough amount of six
hours of electricity. That is from one liter of urine we can
produce 8.64KW of electricity which is sufficient for house
hold purpose.

Theoretical, but intriguing!

Who needs an MPPT or a B2B, when you can have a P2B

 

[andyman]

With one of these you could last indefinitely.

Amazon.co.uk

 

[Widge]

From one litre of urine we can get enough amount of six
hours of electricity. That is from one liter of urine we can
produce 8.64KW of electricity which is sufficient for house
hold purpose.

Theoretical, but intriguing!

Who needs an MPPT or a B2B, when you can have a P2B

I knew car fuel fillers were a covenient height, now thats what you call forward thinking of the guys 100 years ago, although I admit I would need a stool to stand on with the camper.

 

[andyman]

Someone from the Leicester area is going to have to keep there legs crossed. Drove along Melton Rd East Goscote, an hour ago. And there was a cassette that had clearly bounced down the road, sat in the gutter.

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[fishplug]

I put the idea of the Cadbury's choc drink container to Mrs fishplug.

I'm not sure if the general approval of the idea was based on the prospect of emptying the original contents one mugful at a time or on the ability for it to contain it's contents subsequently without spilling, but it's on the 'let's give it a go list'

The non-sealing pee bottles have caused us problems more than once so they're very much on the 'replace' list.

 

[Minxy]

Yep I get it now. For off grid use it makes sense.

One other thing to consider of course is the type of fluid used in a cassette toilet. We use Solbio which can be emptied in any public toilet as it’s organic and biodegradable, not chemical, so no need for a campsite or Elsan waste disposal point.

Easy for us as we don't use any as we have Carthago's SOG equivalent thus no need for any special toilet fluid ... not even Aldi/Lidl's finest clothes washing bio-liquid!

 

[Lenny HB]

doesn't really fully seal so needs emptying or transferring to another container before driving...

Just pour it in the cassette.

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s. Surely the reason for an onboard toilet is to use it for exactly that purpose,

But what do you do when it's full when no lightly hood of emptying for a few days?

We always carry a spare cassette, a right pain when you have 2 full ones.

 

[PaulC70]

Interesting thread. 3 days typically for our cassette toilet.

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s. Surely the reason for an onboard toilet is to use it for exactly that purpose, especially during the night or early in the morning to avoid traipsing in the rain to a campsite loo?

That said, we still debate whether or not to use the onboard cassette toilet for #1s only or for everything. Current policy is #1s only and it’s served us well, but when we venture more off grid in future that will likely change. Although we do still have a “bivvy loo” from our previous VW campervan days, that’s another option.

Contradicting yourself there surely
On one hand you cant see why someone would invest in a van with the onboard loo and not use it for intended purpose then you say your only using yours for half it's intended purpose??

As for using a bottle, you'll see that Ive said I use it to extend the cassettes time as we off grid almost all the time.

 

[steve69]

Interesting thread. 3 days typically for our cassette toilet.

Personally I really don’t understand why, having invested in a van / motorhome with an onboard toilet, why anyone would want or need to use bottles or indeed any other container for #1s.

Another obvious reason - to me anyway - is that some double beds require one person to actually climb over the other person in order to access the Loo. A conveniently placed bottle avoids that problem.

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