French language

Yes a Fourgon is a van as other people have said, but french can be very loose, a van can also be camionette. When I first moved here i thought a baguette was a long stick of bread which of course it is but it is not just its name it is a description, hence baguette magique, (magic wand) the bits of aluminium that you use as a filler on kitchen worktops are baguettes, i have heard plastic electrical trunking called baguettes...
Also remember half of english is french anyway, eg any word ending tion, just say it with an allo allo accent.
Lookup Alexa french on youtube lots of tips, her online course is pretty good and not too expensive.
Interesting. And les baguettes chinoise .. chopsticks. I've seen Alexa,I find some of her info on real spoken french a bit scary eg how je ne sais pas can be pronounced shaipa. Do the English also contract phrases? Dunno.
 
we were asked and even stopped lots of times last year by french people enquiring if we were from Ukraine, we even got asked about the war regularly !!
Yes same here, I don't think it helps that our van has yellow stripes.
 
the course by Michelle Thomas is one of the best i have come across, but there is nothing better than to give it a go, i stopped worrying about past tense and masculine and feminine, if people want to understand what i am saying then they will make the effort, if they dont then theres not a lot i can do about it!

one of my go to phrases is

'vous parlez trop vite pour moi', which i think is 'you talk too fast for me' - at least thats how i use it and it seems to be understood.

if i know i need to ask a specific question, i use google translate (or others ...) and practice before i use it. i also try to phrase questions that give a yes or no answer - the trick for me is not to over complicate things
As you say asking is easy, the trick is to think about what they might ask you, so you are prepared for possible responses.
 
I am mostly using an app called Speakly which is quite good. I have looked at the videos of a lot of polyglots on YouTube and there are various consensus opinions on effective and efficient language learning. The big one for me is chunking, ie do not try learning single words, but learn through phrases at minimum.
One polyglot I like and whose books I have is Olly Richards.

Two other apps I use are memrise and reverso context. Memrise is mostly flashcard app but I use it in conjunction with reverso context. If memrise proffers a single word to learn I stick it into reverso context which then displays actual phrases.
My big sticking point though is understanding even a single phrase of spoken French in France ...

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He would speak loudly with much gesticulation
And you think it's only French? Errr.... Heard of black foot people? Have a look on wiki if not. Just imagine a mix of Italian, Spanish, and French and you might have an idea of what black foot people sound like! Then add gesticulation multiplied by 3 ... Get the whole pic? ... Careful what you're gonna say now, because ..I am one of them :gum:
 
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I am mostly using an app called Speakly which is quite good. I have looked at the videos of a lot of polyglots on YouTube and there are various consensus opinions on effective and efficient language learning. The big one for me is chunking, ie do not try learning single words, but learn through phrases at minimum.
One polyglot I like and whose books I have is Olly Richards.

Two other apps I use are memrise and reverso context. Memrise is mostly flashcard app but I use it in conjunction with reverso context. If memrise proffers a single word to learn I stick it into reverso context which then displays actual phrases.
My big sticking point though is understanding even a single phrase of spoken French in France ...
If you want to experiment it with a chance to be corrected before the big plunge , I can help you on whatsapp. Only a few minutes now and then as you'll get tired of it quite quickly!:hi5::france:

Amicalement
Frankie
 
And you think it's only French? Errr.... Heard of black foot people? Have a look on wiki if not. Just imagine a mix of Italian, Spanish, and French and you might have an idea of what black foot people sound like! Then add gesticulation multiplied by 3 ... Get the whole pic? ... Careful what you're gonna say now, because ..I am one of them :gum:

I had pieds noirs in my family. They lost their farm in Algeria.

The Charentais dialect .... I got taken to a country fair near Cognac. Up on the stage was a stand-up local comedian who did his whole act in Charentais. The audience were in fits of laughter, but I could hardly understand a word he was saying. It is so different. Escargot becomes cagouille and so on.
 
Oh JJ for goodness sake don't encourage him!!! He's gonna go to hell for permanent lying! I bet he just pretends it all to make sure France isn't going to be invaded by all the funsters!:devil::devil::giggler:

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And you think it's only French? Errr.... Heard of black foot people? Have a look on wiki if not. Just imagine a mix of Italian, Spanish, and French and you might have an idea of what black foot people sound like! Then add gesticulation multiplied by 3 ... Get the whole pic? ... Careful what you're gonna say now, because ..I am one of them :gum:
The point was that with no actual French he got his message across clearly. In a way he wouldn't be able to do now with all his present maturity.
 
The point was that with no actual French he got his message across clearly. In a way he wouldn't be able to do now with all his present maturity.
I understood it that way ! The minute you use body language it's at least half of the work done. I experiment it on a daily basis with the children I childmind.
 
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Capucine = Luton
Intégrale = A Class
Profile = coachbuilt
Camping car = Motorhome

Tuyau d'eau propre = hose to rinse your toilet cassette with😂
Not too bad 😁

But just...Intégral...without e
And it's Profilé . I know you don't have the accent for the e but it does change the meaning.

Nothing else to correct 🤓
 
I never really mastered the French language despite being taught it in school for years.

Eventually I achieved a Grade 4 CSE in French Studies for which I will forever be proud.

yodeli that means I was really, really bad at it.

My first wife was better than I was and we had a memorable run in with a fearsome lady who ran a small hotel in Normandy somewhere.

When we checked in we were told something like the doors are locked at midnight. Anyway we rocked up drunk in the early hours and rung the bell. There was much shouting from inside and my ex wife muttered ( somewhat drunkenly) in my ear what I should say so I shouted it out.

The door eventually opened with this lady giving me absolute daggers.

When back in the room my then wife explained that I had commanded her to “ Shut your mouth and open the door”

I was scared to go to breakfast :giggle:
 
Eventually I achieved a Grade 4 CSE in French Studies for which I will forever be proud.
All my pupils who sat their CSE and O levels were trained by me individually. I gave each of them a private course at lunch time (so no meal for me, and for each of them!!) during the last 3 months of school year. They had each a tape on which were recorded all the answers they had to give according to their personal life. I did this free of charge.
The head of department sent me a letter once I came back home that year. They were 92% to have successfully pass their graduation in French!
:dance2::dance2::dance2::france::france:

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All my pupils who sat their CSE and O levels were trained by me individually. I gave each of them a private course at lunch time (so no meal for me, and for each of them!!) during the last 3 months of school year. They had each a tape on which were recorded all the answers they had to give according to their personal life. I did this free of charge.
The head of department sent me a letter once I came back home that year. They were 92% to have successfully pass their graduation i French!
:dance2::dance2::dance2::france::france:
I took French at school and college up to A level, passed except for the aural. I knew I had no chance of passing that. No confidence. Besides I'd found girls! I returned to it in my late 70s with the U3A. Still no confidence. Not helped by the continual "Quoi??" of the French when I do try. Maybe I'm wasting my time. But I can read and understand (mostly). And the local French group are super and great friends.
 
Just imagine a mix of Italian, Spanish, and French
Years ago, in Gibraltar, Spanish, English, French morrocan and a bit of Arabic were often mixed in single sentences on the fly to confuse the English matadors.
It is where we get the phrase "talking gibberish" from.
 
pied noir...
Entêté le sieur! Une pied noir, certes, Française de naissance, et linguiste de surcroit!
What is it all about? Are you looking for some funny...?? argument? I don't see your point.
Sorry but here it's called FUN not PUN!
 
Entêté le sieur! Une pied noir, certes, Française de naissance, et linguiste de surcroit!
What is it all about? Are you looking for some funny...?? argument? I don't see your point.
Sorry but here it's called FUN not PUN!
I don't, I was a strong supporter of the OAS. It just remind me of these lives lost for nothing...
 
Years ago, in Gibraltar, Spanish, English, French morrocan and a bit of Arabic were often mixed in single sentences on the fly to confuse the English matadors.
It is where we get the phrase "talking gibberish" from.
Very interesting! Tho I have seen on several occasions in a working context where business clients studying English were struggling with English spoken or written in a way that was very hard for a non-native speaker to understand - in at least one case very deiiberately - so can cut both ways!

Attempts at pronunciation are also very important - we have a family-famous story from French holidays of many years ago when my brother went into a shop and asked for a 'kernetta' in a broad N.Irish accent. The assistant looked at him blankly and he employed the age-old lack of understanding manouvre -repeat exactly the same except louder.

After failing verbally, he resorted to pointing and the assistant went ´'Voila! un Cornetto!'
 
Attempts at pronunciation
When we first arrived here we went up to Sierra Nevada for the day in late spring. Stopping up at the top car park we decided to grab a quick drink and snack from one of the stalls in the carpark. In my best beginners Spanish I ordered "dos cervezas y dos albóndigas" , por favor.

Beers arrived, along with two small bottles of still water....
 
As you might know , I bring up in English the children I mind (from 2 months to 3y old)
Very often their parents who are all 100% French ask me how they are supposed to find the right way to pronounce words they never came across before. So here: Go on Google translate, enter the word you need to pronounce and then click on the little speaker on the low left side. It will give you the right pronunciation as many times as you want!

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I’ve learnt more in 200 days of Duolingo than I did in 5 years at school.
I also like Thomas on Français Immersion on YouTube. He is a bit annoying at first but you end up liking him 😂
 
Keep at it ToBoldlyGo and ChrisSue ,, I did O level french at school and liked going there on hols, we bought a holiday home in France where none of the neighbours spoke a word of english, renovated parts of it again all in French. I then decided my French needed a polish so stuck a term of 2 hours per week, which did help. I have dealt with 2 Moroccan breakdowns in French, bought the Mh we re sat in and have been conversing with non English speaking French just a few minutes ago.

I'm a long way from fluent, but I listen carefully and use google translate a lot and I can have conversations about quite complex stuff and its great.

The difficult thing sometimes is getting the opportunity to overcome their bad english, I still sometimes have exchanges where we are each speaking the others language.
 
I’ve learnt more in 200 days of Duolingo than I did in 5 years at school.
I also like Thomas on Français Immersion on YouTube. He is a bit annoying at first but you end up liking him 😂
But is the difference the way it's taught or you can see the point of doing it now and want to. I know when I was at school and no one in the family had ever been abroad it's seemed as relevant as learning Klingon!
 
But is the difference the way it's taught or you can see the point of doing it now and want to. I know when I was at school and no one in the family had ever been abroad it's seemed as relevant as learning Klingon!
I think that it must be a combination of both. I can just make more sense of it all now.
 
I think one of the problems is we haven't a clue who we are or where we live.
Are we British, or are we English,Welsh Scots or Northern Irish.
Do we live in the United Kingdom, Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, let alone including the Channel Islands Sillys and Isle of Man.

Then when you try to put nationality into a website you can't! British doesn't exist you have to put United Kingdom, I'm sorry i am not United Kingdomish.

If we don't know how do you expect other countries to know.

I think it is worth becoming french (or another country of your choice)
So you can at last say I live in France and I am French, no ambiguities, and believe me having French and no ambiguities in the same sentence is a miracle in itself.

😄😄😄😄
I live in Hampshire, which is in England, which is in Great Britain, which is in the United Kingdom. They are all defined areas.

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