Jim
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Not necessarily as each current member state must agree, ie a veto,
That's right, so how can she alone promise a veto, unless of course the Germans do run the EU
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Not necessarily as each current member state must agree, ie a veto,
That's right, so how can she alone promise a veto, unless of course the Germans do run the EU
What happened to THE VETO when they let GREECE and PORTUGAL in then? They will let TURKEY in within the next five years,,,,BUSBY.Each country has a veto, it only takes one be it Merkel or Cameron if either one, or any other country's leader, declared that a country would not be allowed to join then it would not happen.That's what a veto means.
That does not mean that Germany, the UK or any other member country that exercises the veto is 'running the EU'.
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I think this referendum has come too early on the grounds of immigration only at the run up to an election. If we vote to stay then we will be the gopher of europe doing everything that is asked of us without redress.I think anyone who thinks they have an equal say about what goes on in Europe is mistaken. Germany has been Europe's bully for many years and it continues to this day. She is in charge and will remain so for the foreseeable future. I've no doubt that history will repeat itself and the UK and a few allies will have to bail Europe out again. Maybe the Referendum could be the start of that process.
Given the comments of many on here about Turkey and the EU isn't there at least half a chance that she might be speaking for more than Germany?In the press today reports that Merkel, has vowed there will never be a place in Europe for Turkey.
With a comment like that, anyone would be forgiven for thinking she and Germany ran the EU
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Given the comments of many on here about Turkey and the EU isn't there at least half a chance that she might be speaking for more than Germany?
Makes a change from Boris talking like he can run the world if we leaveJust saying like she talks about Europe like she owns the place, and commenting that she probably does
Makes a change from Boris talking like he can run the world if we leave
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And not necessarily in that orderTrump, Boris, Merkel, Shiftzz, the world is a dangerous place
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No mention of GASSING on this thread or A Frames,,BUSBY..
They showed that with Mosley in the 1930s so it's no surprise when Farage is given the same treatment.
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I've posted many times over the years that Farage and UKIP remind me of the nationalistic ideals of Mosley and his party. Just the overall impression they give me.I haven't yet heard Farage, Promote Anti Semitism, or any other Facist Ideal?. Pray tell us where that gem Came from?. IF anything Farage is Anti German?.
Pete
Farage and UKIP remind me of the nationalistic ideals of Mosley and his party. Just the overall impression they give me.
Sorry, am I not allowed to form an impression from the way I perceive people behaving?Yes, an IMPRESSION?. Would that be because you want it to be "the impression"?. IF, it was in any way TRUE. The "establishment" would have had a criminal case under way already?. Because that is the "impression" we get whenever "anyone" disagree`s with the Status Quo?. Or tries to upset the "Funny Handshake" perception of "How one should behave". After all "we cannot have "Business" being affected by plebs who want something different, silly little people, who dont understand what's best for them".
Pete
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so does Greenland,the only country to exit the EU in 1985.Denmark seem to do ok out of it
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In - out, shake it all about…
The truth is that no one actually knows what will happen if we leave, that’s the only fact that we know.
There are major issues with the EU and it failure to change and its will to dominate everything. That’s the biggest gripe I have. Wine Lakes etc. etc. Stupid laws and even stupider politicians. Endless bailing out of failed states.
I am of the opinion that the Briexit is a stalking horse and the sooner the referendum happens the better, I foresee a small majority possibly in favour of IN. If that’s the case, David Cameron will have shot his bolt and the EU will expand at a fast rate, Turkey, more rules, more judgments against common sense.
If, on the other hand there is a small or big vote to leave then that will trigger the domino effect and other countries who have issues will come out of the woodwork.
EH1C, red herring.
Pound up/down whatever, another possible but no one is sure and they can’t be.
Trade up/Down, well that’s a yes and no answer, anyhow that won’t happen overnight, as markets will need to find alternatives. So that could be a progressive increase/decline. Those in will have to find alternatives to British goods etc., and we would have to find new markets. So again some scaremongering.
I say vote out, vote for change of the EU and bring back common sense.
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The MP needs to understand how it all works. Anyone who is legally in the UK , whether working or not, has the right to healthcare without an EHIC. The UK is residency based. If your feet are standing on the ground you have the right to healthcare. It is the payments out to other countries for oap's that is the only difference.Remember that the EC111 or whatever its called , its removal or refusal will cause all those from the EU coming here to pay fro their treatment..
The UK pays more than £670m to EU countries for Britons' healthcare abroad, while claiming back less than £50m from the EU.
In what one MP described as a "scandalous failure", it has emerged that the UK pays more than £670m to EU countries for Brits' healthcare abroad, while claiming back less than £50m from the EU, even though there are significantly more EU citizens in the UK than UK citizens in the EU.
Under the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) - countries can claim back health costs from other EU countries if their citizens use medical services abroad.
The new figures reveal that nearly every country claims more from the UK than the UK claims back from the rest of the EU.
For example the UK pays France £147,685,772, but France only pays UK £6,730,292 and the UK pays Germany £25,873,954 but Germany only pays the UK £2,189,664.
Even in countries such as Poland where net migration is massively towards the UK, the discrepancy is four-fold in Poland's favour.
MP John Mann, who obtained the figures in a parliamentary question, told Sky News that "logically the UK should be receiving more than it pays out".
He estimates "the real cost is a billion pounds a year".
Mr Mann told Sky News: "Other countries are recharging and we are not.
"The figures are astonishing - we are paying them 70 times more than they are paying us.
"We are paying our bills and they are not paying theirs - because the British NHS is not recharging them.
"There is meant to be a comparable system in place - but it is not being applied in this country and that means we are losing out.
"Every single country is winning against us, be it the super-efficient Swedes or Germans, or countries like Malta or Greece.
"It's a huge scandal."
The Department of Health said: "This Government is determined to make sure our NHS isn't abused - our tough new measures to clamp down on migrants accessing the NHS are expected to recover more than £500m a year by 2018 and we're extending charges further to other parts of the NHS including A&E."
"We pay more out than we receive, partly because a far greater number of British pensioners live in other EEA countries."
For example, there are 70,000 UK pensioners living with Spain.
However, Sky News learned that while the UK does not reclaim A&E expenses for EU citizens - Spain is among countries that do.
The Department of Health told Sky News: "It is up to each country in the EU about what health services they charge for."
Mr Mann described the pensioner explanation as a "myth".
He told Sky News: "We're not sending pensioners to Poland, only 30,000 UK citizens are living in Poland.
"There are over half a million Poles in this country and yet we are paying four times more to Poland for health care recharges, than they pay to us.
"The NHS is losing out on huge amounts of money every single week."
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So there are big savings to be made there..
See, scaremongering again,,,
Understand how it works.The MP needs to understand how it all works. Anyone who is legally in the UK , whether working or not, has the right to healthcare without an EHIC. The UK is residency based. If your feet are standing on the ground you have the right to healthcare. It is the payments out to other countries for oap's that is the only difference.
Of course we'll be paying Poland more than we receive as all the Poles in the UK have no need to use an EHIC as they have full right to healthcare. It has always been that way.
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