We use a cement company near our location.
It costs us a box of biscuits for the weichbridge operators tea break!
It costs us a box of biscuits for the weichbridge operators tea break!
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For those who are not sure if getting their van weighed is worth the bother then I can inform you of a way of getting it weighed accurately and entirely free of charge. First load your MH up for a long trip and make sure both the water and fuel tanks are full. Then go out and have an almighty accident where many thousands of pounds of damage have been caused. At this point your insurance company will weigh your vehicle entirely free of charge and then walk away from any claim you wish to make.
The TIncas
That's commercial & for 800 quid he must have been seriously overloaded as a 15-30% over is fixed penalty & 300 fine. For 800 quid I'd have shot him.
More recent guidance says that overweight of between 5 and 10 % should be dealt with by Graduated
Fixed Penalty. Whether dealt with by way of GFP or prosecution, being overweight
(vehicle not driver) is not an endorseable offence.
GRADUATION OF FIXED PENALTY NOTICES
£100 FP -- 5% to 10% or over 1 tonne on axle, gross or train if less than 5%
£200 FP -- Over 10% and up to 15%
£300 FP -- Over 15% and up to 30%
Prosecute over 30% or over 5 tonnes on axle, gross or train if under 30%
NON COMMERCIAL DRIVERS
In genuine cases of ignorance e.g. moving house, and where the offence is unlikely to be
repeated, a prohibition should be issued and an overloading guidance leaflet handed to
the driver. To take into account the Public Interest Test no Fixed Penalty Notice should
be issued in these circumstances.
Also if no copper they cannot ask you to stop.& weigh.They only have the power to stop commercial vehicles . They need a police officer to stop/weigh a non-commercial.
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I live near the weighbridge in lancing on a27 in my sprinter camper I use for motocross I have been pulled on 3 times and been just under thank the lord I had emptied the jet wash tanks life isnt as easy and forgoing as it once was especialy if your a motorist.
I have to admit I didn't consider payload limits on the old MH so we probably would have got hammered if it'd been checked. With the new one payload is already tight, at 395Kgs with empty water & waste tanks and only one person allowed for, so some serious thinking (and weighing) is going on at present. I reckon it's manageable if we're ruthless with clobber and don't drive with full tanks, but it's going to mean a change of some our habits, like not stockpiling food and drink.
Failing that we'll have to uprate it, but that will cost us more in road tolls abroad. I keep an open mind.
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Our van had an MIRO of 2920 giving us a payload of 580kg before extras. People grossly under estimate pay load required, we travel daily light but do run with full tanks couldn't keep to 3500 so we upgraded to 3850 only gained 150kg of use able load due to rear axle loading.I read somewhere that as many as 50% of moho's are overweight, some on gross weight, but more usually on the rear axle. With new vans reportedly having a payload as low as 250 kegs from the factory its hardly a surprise. In our Hymer the kitchen, bathroom and most of the storage is in the rear of the van so if we carry our scooter on the rack were sailing close to the wind, fortunately we have air suspension so the Moho rides well and doesn't look tail heavy.
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We went over a WIM outfit on our way back from Scotland the other week. No problem because I knew I was well within our payload limits. Didn't see any MH's stopped, but there were plenty of White Vans that had been stopped.If you are over weight there is the potential for a big fine and inconvenience. You want evidence you go find it,
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Have to agree, they seem to do a lot of operations here, most days when I travel that route I pull in to have a leg stretch, and 9 times out of 10 VOSA are doing an operation of some sort there!drive past rownhams services on the m27 or fleet on the m3 on the wrong day and expect to get pulled in
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If you are under 3850 then you wouldn't be 10% over. max. would be 100 Fixed penalty. anyway as long as your axle weights are under the plated weights vosa can't touch you, they wont prosecute on gross weight overloading only.How I look at it is my van is 3500kg and will go to 3850kg on a paperwork exercise. I am probably over 35 but under 3850.
I can't be bothered to uprate it but if I do it'll be cheaper tax.
If I get weighed, what actually will vosa prosecute me for??
as already said dvsa target specific vehicle types in campaigns. each summer round here they regularly target horse boxes, horse trailers and cars/vans and the obvious boats on trailers. drive past rownhams services on the m27 or fleet on the m3 on the wrong day and expect to get pulled in
my niece was at a horse event last year and dvsa stopped nearly every horse carrying vehicle leaving the field
Have to agree, they seem to do a lot of operations here, most days when I travel that route I pull in to have a leg stretch, and 9 times out of 10 VOSA are doing an operation of some sort there!