What do you want on a campsite? (1 Viewer)

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Assuming cleanliness etc are a given here are a few other ideas, however, it depends who you are aiming for. In many UK campsites caravans seem to outnumber MHs by quite a margin. The difference is MHs tend to prefer hard standing but many caravanners want a bit of grass for their awning. Not a hard and fast rule but worth having the choice but you need to have the balance right. Folk here will say what they want for their MH but if MHs are only 10% of your visitors then they will be in a minority, at least during the summer. It may be the reverse in winter but will it be worth opening then?

If you are going to have people coming with little tents, perhaps on foot or like I do on my cycle tours arriving by bike then the greatest luxury of all is a picnic table.

Communal facilities, like a BBQ area, might attract groups especially if you can build a room where people can gather, especially when it is wet - this is Ireland after all! The same room can house a book-swap library and could be where the wifi starts if spreading it across the campsite is too expensive initially.

Local information, walks pubs etc very useful and you could charge a small price for it. We would be happy to pay for something with a decent map.

Animals such as hens are good for children to watch but need looking after all year round. The hens I mean, hopefully visitors will take their children away with them when they leave.

Your biggest challenge will be attracting custom particularly when you start although as it is an existing site presumably there should be some regulars. Perhaps you could organise events but check your insurance. An email newsletter would be a good way of letting previous visitors know about say any local events such as a food fair.

If the fishing is good locally then this is something you could use to promote the place but advertising is very expensive and probably not worth it for such a small site but because your site is so small you have the opportunity to get to know your happy campers very well. Word of mouth is an excellent way of spreading the word.

As an alternative, the luxury end of things can be made to pay if you have the right location. Knoydart House charges an arm and a leg but is booked solid 12 months or more ahead. http://www.knoydarthouse.co.uk. Not bad for a place you can't even drive to - although of course that is its appeal. I am not sure quite how to translate this to a campsite but if you have space and can get permission to build a luxury yurt or log cabin or two they will have the potential to make a lot more money than you will ever get from tightfisted MH owners who would prefer a carpark!
 
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My pet hate is fixed head showers in the ladies shower block (don't think the blokes care either way) so I would suggest you have hand held showers in the ladies 'cos we don't want to wash our hair every time we have a shower and our 'bits' are underslung - don't think I need to explain this one.
Also, if possible, it would be nice to have a dog walking area with poo disposal bins situated a bit away from the pitches.
 
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I only use my own facilities, so if there was water, and grey and black drainage, you wouldn't have to clean up after me, also i would heat my own water for showers, and washing up too!

Craig

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For us...
Clean facilities.. Inc regularly mowed grass
Dogs (well behaved) allowed
EHU (and fresh water taps) on each pitch
Little hedges or shrubs between pitches
Wifi

.. For campers with tents a little snug with a fridge and a couple of sockets is a nice touch.
 
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My pet hate is fixed head showers in the ladies shower block (don't think the blokes care either way) so I would suggest you have hand held showers in the ladies 'cos we don't want to wash our hair every time we have a shower and our 'bits' are underslung - don't think I need to explain this one.
Also, if possible, it would be nice to have a dog walking area with poo disposal bins situated a bit away from the pitches.

The reason for fixed head showers is they dont break easily and are difficult to steal...BUSBY:Smile:
 
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I would not be happy at paying €20 a night :whatthe:, however if certain items like EHU were optional and would allow a lower rate then that might be better.
I prefer fairly basic facilities, as I don't use site washrooms and EHU in the summer is a waste as I can't use all the solar produced.

Most important are privacy, peace and quiet and a nice rural area. WiFi only needed if no 3/4G coverage.

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I use a shower cap, keeps my hair dry and lean forward or backwards depending which bit of the undercarriage is being fettled :ROFLMAO:
It's the timer switch that annoys me in a shower and the grubby floors. Hence using the one in the Motorhome.
 

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Hi,
What a great life choice.
We just like EHU, clean toilets, fresh water and somewhere for the waste water to go. Jobs a gud un.

Good luck
Steve'n'Lesley

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Free cable TV at each pitch showing non stop videos of City beating Red teams (several recent ones to choose from)...

Super fast free wifi...

Special on site (discounted) sales points for Fray Bentos pies...

Free cans of John Smiths Original (not Extra Smooth) available 24 hrs...

Mariella Frostrup working in reception...

...and a Burger King within 100 metres.

With all of the above plus non stop sunshine and I might consider, just consider mind you, paying €20 a night to park my Hymer.

But then, I doubt you have any need to attract rufty tufty, off site motorhomers like me... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


JJ :Cool:

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A very wide variety of responses already.

1. Some want adults only, that rules out families with kids....

2. Some Families like a small play area, just a swing or a slide that keeps little ones happy, other campers don't like little ones. (see point 1)...

3. Some don't want pets, that rules out those with pets....

4. Some want lots of toilet / shower /wash up facilities... Some do all that in the van, that's why they bought it, so just need a clean water supply and waste disposal..

5. Some want hedges or pitch separation, other hate them as it is a barrier to socialising with the neighbouring pitch...

6. Some want TV or sat hook up points on the pitch, others don't as they have their own TV systems..

7. Some want unlimited WiFi, others just need a good 3G signal, so don't want to pay extra for WiFi....

8. Some want 16A EHU so as to power a small house (at your expense), others don't want EHU as they have solar, B2B's batteries etc, and so also don't want to be subsidising the green house.....


So for sure you can please some of the people some of the time but........ you know the rest.:winky:

For me, location is important, walking distance to a beach river lake or canal, nice hill walks, scenery, village store, pubs, chip shop within half a mile or so is perfect.
Seems you have that though...:thumb:

Will you expect more tourers than motorhomes? they have different wants and expectations again.....:Doh:

You just have to make the calls, what you provide has to make financial sense to you as owner whilst appealing to as many as possible...

Whatever happens, all the best with your venture... and where are you?
We are hoping to do an Ireland tour in 2014...... :thumb::thumb:
 
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RULES and lots of em..........we like RULES......:ROFLMAO:

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Basics for me are a hardstand, level, with hook up and a decent amount of electric - 10 amps as a minimum.

Site wise - not bothered how old facilities are, so long as they are clean.

That's all I seek!

Russ
 
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The things that you have allready listed sound good to me if you have the right location,so where are you?::bigsmile:

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The best site we stayed on was just outside yarmouth
No facilties just water waste point and hook up and a small fishing lake
Miles from any where
Why did we like it
The owner was a gentleman who took the time to answer any questions with good local knowledge and a freindly manner
And the site was spotlessly clean and so quite just what we needed at that time

Point being you dont need a flash site to be a good site just
Clean and friendly make the most of what you have
 
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Okay I get it.
On the 1 acre campsite I am in the process of buying I need the following;
Adults only area well separated from the family area,
An area that is pet free and an area that is suitable for pets now assuming these have to be separated into adults only and family area this now makes four areas,
I also need a quiet area and an area which is sub divided with small hedges and also an open area for socialising (quietly? With and without pets and children?
And for some TV on a loop showing a certain team beating other teams, with free beer (original not smooth) on tap and preferable served by a near naked Mariella Frostrup, who will also be heating the discounted (well nearly free) fray bentos pies from the paying guests, oh and when I say paying, take this term loosely as payment is optional depending on the above criteria being met.
Plus 3 phrase electricity for some but only some, free wifi or a good 3G/4G signal, sunshine 24/7 near a beach, river, lake & mountains within 100m of a burger king. The pitches need to hard standing with grass, fully serviced, perhaps I could get Mariella to pop round to each pitch to help with the grey and black emptying for the “paying” guests.
So with this in mind I know of a campsite in County Clare that was under offer but the buyer has pulled out.
No you have not put me off far from it, some of the suggestions are feasible, some are even sensible, some I would have done, some of would not have but I am now thinking of doing, others I had not thought about and I will still not be doing, I know it’s been a while since Mariella was on TV but I doubt she would want the job I could offer her for the price I could pay her.
One thing is clear we all want the same thing but actually we don’t.
Thanks so far and all ideas will be considered, some for a considerable period of time others dismissed in a nano second.

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to put my bussiness hat on the best you could do is get affilliated to one of the major clubs, this way you get thier expertise of site running, plus the really big advantage of mass booking through their web site

good luck
 
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Maybe a better question would be "Would you consider crossing the Irish Sea for a camping holiday if you had to pay £300-£400 for the return ferry crossing". Stena line is showing £344 for a return June 2nd - 9th crossing, Holyhead to Dublin, in a 8 metre motorhome for 2 people. On Eurotunnel Folkestone to Calais return for the same dates the most expensive crossing is £184. Whilst I love Ireland, the cost of the ferry would certainly exclude it from our itinerary.
Sorry.:Sad:
 
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Seems like you should move the site from Ireland to France! A modest proposal?

A small, well-maintained site with 5 pubs a short walk away sounds pretty good to me. My pet hate is having signs and notices all over the place, telling us what not to do. Particularly those that have 'NOTICE' as a heading...

Once you've finished the facilities, PLEASE use them yourself. Sounds obvious, but some places I've been to have been spoilt by the lack of, in the scheme of things, tiny and inexpensive features. Such as a soap dispenser by the hand basin, so that you can wash your hands properly if you use the loo. A seat of some kind in the shower. Somewhere to park your soap. shower gel etc whilst showering. And toilet rolls in the loos - I really hate carrying a loo roll across the site as though I were off to poo in the woods. OK, some motorhomers never use site facilities, but others [including Mrs Ericonabike] love the chance to have a decent soak and to use their hairdryer. So please, whatever facilities you instal, use them yourself first and ask if they meet your own expectations.

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I know of a campsite in County Clare
Ah - that's one booking guaranteed then, especially as you said it overlooks the Atlantic.

You would think clean & tidy would be a given, but past experience of Ireland suggests that this will mark the site out as above average. The west coast of Ireland is a popular destination for German tourists, so it's worth thinking about their likely requirements.

Are you aiming principally at caravans/motorhomes or tent campers? Can you fit in tents in addition to the 15 pitches? A narrow (2.5m?) hardstanding with grass alongside should suit everyone - tents pitch on the grass & leave the car on the hardstanding, caravans & m/homes on the hardstanding with room for awnings etc on the grass.

West Clare doesn't sound the most likely spot for good 3G coverage, so that increases the importance of site-wide Wi-Fi.

Hardstandings & good facilities suggest the potential for being open all year, but I get the impression that you plan to close & travel in the winter. This limits the economics of spending too much on facilities, so simple, clean & friendly seem to be the stand out requirements. It's interesting how often 'friendly, helpful owners' stands out as the key point in five star reviews.
 
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It is often the silly little things that annoy me.

Stayed at a nice site in Devon last year, beautiful showers/toilets etc, looked fairly new. Large cubicle with sink, toilet and large shower, the shower was so large that one end to the other was about 6-7 feet, so what had they done? Put the tray to hold shampoo soap etc as far away from the actual shower as possible. Plenty of space (including a corner) near the shower, but no, they had had them put the other end.

Also in such a large area they had only put 1 small hook to hang things on, with acres of empty wall and door space, just 1 hook.
 
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I think one advantage that I have over some campsite owners (not all but some) is that I use campsites big ones, small ones, besides rivers, oceans, lakes, canals, forests and fields. I have stayed on plush sites, free sites and in between sites. I have been intending to buy a campsite for over 2 years now and on everyone I go to I assess the pros and cons.

I also know what I want on my campsite to an extent but as the previous posts have proved, people want different things when they chose where to pitch up. I will take on board the tip of using all the facilities my self and getting the wife to do the same to make sure I have not missed anything obvious.

In my current job I stay in hotels 3 or 4 times a week and I am amazed at how many hotels get the basics wrong, the flush being behind the seat cover - stupid, the bath having angled sides so that you have to stand with you feet very close together when showing.

I am not trying to aim specifically at MHs, Caravans or Tents I would welcome all and any. There are no statics. The pitches will all be a mixture of hard standing and grass and a decent size suitable for most of the above.

Ireland does appeal to the Europeans probably more than the UK market particularly Northern Europeans so I will have to brush up on some basic welcome phrases.

Notices seen lots on my travels and every time I read one I think do they really need to state the obvious, are people really that stupid and then every now and again on a site I see some one who is that stupid. I don't like notices telling people what not to do and I won't be having any until/unless I start getting the really stupid people staying on my site.

Thanks again.

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I also know what I want on my campsite

That's irrelevant, it's what your clients want if you want to survive.

Ireland does appeal to the Europeans probably more than the UK

You've not mentioned web site. You need a good multi-lingual web site.

Notices seen lots on my travels and every time I read one I think .

Now you have to think risk assessment. In writing. It's easy to call it nonsense but when something goes wrong someone will do their best to hang the blame on you. Remember "This cup may be hot" the bill for that was millions.

I remember Jim ranting about a pillock flushing his thetford tank by putting a drinking water hose in it. Expect the worst from the start.
 
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to put my bussiness hat on the best you could do is get affilliated to one of the major clubs, this way you get thier expertise of site running, plus the really big advantage of mass booking through their web site

good luck

But then he'll have to shell out on lots of wooden pitch stakes (which make fabby targets), and don a cap of authority only equaled by a Mr A Hitler. ::bigsmile:
 
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Well after many months, the van is nearly all packed as is the car and the journey to Ireland starts next week. I take over the campsite on 24 of March and I be making some of the changes I talked about before and taking into account some helpful suggestions from you lot.

Hope to see 1 or 2 you make it over to Doonbeg, Co Clare.

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