Vehicle Category on V5

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  1. Mr Colpot

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    So - we changed our PVC to Motor Caravan on the V5C but just spoken with DVLA as vehicle category is N1 and they say this doesnt change. Dartford Crossing use the vehicle category to charge which is a whole pound difference to what Bessie used to cost. Not a major issue as we very rarely use the crossing but just curious to know what Vehicle Category other PVCs or for that matter any other type of Motorhomes have on the V5C.
     
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    As its based on a van and less than 3500 kg the category N1 is correct.
    N2 is the same but over 3500kg
    N3 is the same but over 12000kg

    M1 is a passenger car with less than 8 seats
    M2 over 8 seats, less than 5000kg
    M3 over 8 seats, more than 5000kg
     
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    Thanks pappajohn - its the first PVC we have owned and I never checked any of the others as not needed to. Seems strange that our 4250kg 7.65m Bessacarr was classed the same as a car but this smaller Van is more expensive.
     
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    motor homes and campers should be m1 . its another one of those is a m,home carrying goods etc again . but with the windows etc it should be m1 .
    back to eu rules .
     
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    There may be a diffetent rate at the crossing for motorhomes, using body type rather than vehicle category.
     
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    I'm fairly sure that if you call the Dart Charge people and explain, they will adjust their records.
     
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    Have been in contact with DVLA who say the N1 Vehicle Category Stays the same even though its a Motor Caravan and have contacted Dartford Crossing who say they go by the the Vehicle Category to determine the charge (I have asked if there is a procedure to appeal/adjust so will see what they say.)
    I remember years ago when I had a Dacia Duster (which was a Jeep type car with a canvas top) and was towing a trailer tent I had to pay the rate for a commercial vehicle with trailer even though I lifted the canvas side to show the rear seats with our twins sitting there so I am not expecting much flexibilty.
    When all is said and done it will cost me an extra pound each way on the rare occassion that I want to go accross so its not a major issue. (as long as the Police dont use the same principle to check my speed)
     
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    We have a PVC and on our V5C the 'Vehicle Category' is blank ...

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    We are classed as a car for Dartford.
     
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    Same on our V5C which has just been returned after an upgrade to 3850kg ( thanks to Mel's help) just blank.
    Ray
     
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    As said.. a motorhome is classed as a car at the Dartford crossing.. be it 36ft RV or PVC

    Dartford Crossing charges
    Vehicle class Type of vehicle Single journey Standard or commercial account Local resident discount account

    B Cars (including trailers), motorhomes, passenger vans and buses with less than 9 seats £2.50

    https://www.gov.uk/dartford-crossing-fees-exemptions-penalties

    cheaper if you have an account ..
     
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    Apparently they pick up the charge from the Category if it is there and its there on mine. Its when I removed the Bessie and put this one on the account that the class of vehicle comes up. I have quoted their website to them so will see if they will change the record and charge properly. As I say we very rarely use it so its not a major issue but I cant see why they are being so rigid at the moment.
     
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    There's no vehicle category on my V5 either. A motor caravan with less than 8 seats and not exceeding 5 tonnes max mass is Category M1 special types and not category N, which relates to goods vehicles. DVLA should change this. I've recently had to research all of this in connection with a fatal collision our unit has been investigating.

    I would also ask Vantage for a copy of the Certificate of Conformity that they submitted for 2nd Stage Type Approval, if you didn't get a copy with your van. I have a copy for mine, and it clearly states "Vehicle identification number nnnn has been completed and altered as follows : N1 Category Vehicle converted to M1 Motor Caravan and conforms in all aspects to the type described in approval e11*nnnn -----"

    Submit your V5C to DVLA with the change of vehicle particulars section completed, a covering letter and a copy of the Certificate of Conformity and dig your heels in if necessary. Category N1 is quite obviously wrong for a vehicle that falls within the definition of a motor caravan, more so when it has been type approved to that definition which your van most definitely has.
     
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    my self build goes over as a car not sure whats on the v5 other than motorcaravan
     
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