Trikeman
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Well done Gromett, :thumb:
enjoy where your off.
Trikeman.
enjoy where your off.
Trikeman.
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I am no expert on the subject of Easystart but I understood that it should never be used if engine has heater plugs.
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had same probs with my van vw topaz , changed plugs .no start, the relay had just come loose, alot of expense that was,nt needed, ...............Del
having to cycle 3 times is a sure sign of failed/ing plug/s.
only takes a couple of weak or dead plugs to make a no start when its cold.
you obviously never knew to look but when cranking there would probably be a bit of smoke puffing from the exhaust as the better plugs tried to fire it up
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Bite the bullet and buy a set of new heater/ glow plugs --Only around 20 quid for a set of 4 off eBay --easy to test the old ones but for 20 quid ???
terry
Following Ivory55's post above I actually watched my juggler friend Dom start the diesel engine on his narrow boat by holding a lit fire torch over the air intake...
Didn't suggest it to Karl though as I didn't think he would have a fire torch readily at hand.
JJ :Cool:
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Thats how the Spanish fishermen start their engines on the old single diesels!
Peter
Following Ivory55's post above I actually watched my juggler friend Dom start the diesel engine on his narrow boat by holding a lit fire torch over the air intake...
Didn't suggest it to Karl though as I didn't think he would have a fire torch readily at hand.
JJ :Cool:
Everyone seems to be assuming it to be a Glow Plug problem. It could also be faulty injectors.
I recently had this problem on my Sorento - very hard to start but ran perfectly when it did fire. Had engine checked out and Glow Plugs were OK, fault was found in Injectors. Had all four Injectors replaced and problem solved. Expensive repair though :Sad:
Using Easy Start as a temporary measure always got engine running.
Rob
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. Much more likely to be glow plugs than injectors due to temperature sensitivity?.
Or a small chance of the feed to the plugs. Get you meter right across a plug and measure the volts. If you have 2 meters, one across plug, one across battery and see how close they are.
Another good measure is battery neg to block, should be zero but if the earth bond is corroded it won't be.
This had been mentioned on a facebook response but was also one of the possibilities I was thinking ....Has you MoHo got heater plugs Gromett? Are they working?
One of the most common issues with diesels not starting first click on a crisp winters morn.
I didn't know that. In combination with a suggestion from Artona of trying to turn ignition on and of a few times before attempting to start..... I had done what artona suggested but only for a second or two.Geo once pointed out that the light on some van lies to you, ours does.
it takes a while to get the tip of the plug to glow white hot
maybe take 10 to 15 seconds to glow white and will remain too hot to touch for quite some time.
have you tried turning ignition on
let the heater light go out
then turn off ignition on and repeat a few times
may just warm the glow coil and cylinder up a little bit before you crank the engine
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Rob, its a combination of things that are making me look towards the glow plugs.
1) When the temp is above 8-10 degrees there is no problems starting at all.
2) When I turned the ignition on and left it for 8 secs, do this 3 times before attempting to start it started fine.
3) After the engine has been running for 5 minutes there is no further problems starting it again.
4) the problem has got worse over the last 3 winters.
Ocam's razor springs to mind here... Much more likely to be glow plugs than injectors due to temperature sensitivity?
I really can't see it being the injectors. Replacing the glow plugs makes a lot more sense than going straight for the injectors.
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A split Leak Back Pipe caused similar symptoms on mine recently.
Simple replacement of a 4" length of braided rubber hose and it's Happy Days......:thumb:
Rob, its a combination of things that are making me look towards the glow plugs.
1) When the temp is above 8-10 degrees there is no problems starting at all.
2) When I turned the ignition on and left it for 8 secs, do this 3 times before attempting to start it started fine.
3) After the engine has been running for 5 minutes there is no further problems starting it again.
4) the problem has got worse over the last 3 winters.
Ocam's razor springs to mind here... Much more likely to be glow plugs than injectors due to temperature sensitivity?
I really can't see it being the injectors. Replacing the glow plugs makes a lot more sense than going straight for the injectors.
see Grommets post, below.
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