Under control? On leads?

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  1. gordoncbrown

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    Not asking this to upset the dog owning community as I'm a dog owner myself but I'm just curious.
    Most sites say to have your dog on a lead at all times. Fair enough. A couple of places have said that your dog must be under control at all times. Fair enough. A lot of the time though I see people with extending leads, up to 8 metres long, walking around with their dog/dogs. I have on a couple of occasions seen people struggle to get their dog back to their side due to the fact that the lead is so long. So although the extending leads meet the "dogs on lead" rule they may not be fully under control. What's other peoples thoughts on this?:Smile:
     
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    We have them, but our dogs are quite small so easy to haul in quickly, mind you Billy will come to heel with one word:thumb:, Pippy seems to think the more I shout the further she has to go:Doh:
     
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    Control means that they do as they need to. I get annoyed when people allow their dogs to encroach on my pitch; one even started to cock its leg up the motorhome wheel; short shrift rebuke issued and no apology followed either.:Angry:

    We are dog owners and like to think very responsible, even cleaning up after him on public woodland paths where many just leave it to nature.
     
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    I wouldn't leave Ellie's doings on a path, but if they are to the side on scrubland I don't worry. You have rabbit's, foxes', sheep's, horses' and all other doings all over the place, so I don't think we should be too phobic. :BigGrin:

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    Couple of weeks ago I was cycling on a path on a site, there was this trip wire across it, tied one end to their caravan, the other end to a big dog. I saw it, they saw me and went into panic mode. Tossers. I could have been one of the many little kids tearing around looking all over the place.
     
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    There seem to be more and more places (even including remote woodlands) where 'dogs must be on leads' for no good reason. Having a dog on a lead is no guarantee that it is under proper control (as o.p. mentions re extending leads) or that its owner will clear up its crap. :RollEyes:

    Personally, I don't like extending leads and won't use them (altho' I can appreciate their usefulness if you have a dog that has a bad recall). If my dog is on a lead I expect her to be walking to heel not pulling ahead of me. So I much prefer areas where 'dogs must be under control' as she can then run free but is under my voice control. :Smile:
     
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    I so wish I had an obedient dog like you Maz. If Ellie is on the lead, she just sits and has to be dragged along like a log. If she is off the lead, she just sits and waits at the car till you come back. It seems that big dogs are better behaved. :BigGrin:

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    Ivy is renaming her dog "woodbine" 'cos she takes it out for a drag.

    To me, "under proper control" means just that. On a lead.
    A lead being a proper one, not one of the extending excuses for leads.
    The whole point of a lead is to excercise control,the extending things offer no control whatsover.
    How can a thin bit of string 8 or 10 metres long be said to allow an owner to excercise control?
    I've seen an out of control dog on one of these strings have a go at a kid.
    Kid got bit before the owner could gain control.
    The owner then maintained the dog was good and the kid "must have annoyed it".
    Owner should have been heavily fined, dog put down.
    I am not a dog hater, far from it. I just dont subscribe to this "dogs come before people" way of thinking.
    Dogs should be on a proper lead in any public place.
     
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    My two cockers have extending leads which are kept short on-site or footpaths. I only allow them to go to the full extent if they are not going to bother anyone or get into trouble.

    I was going to book to go to a small music festival HERE but the camp-site's rules on dogs are too rigid. They are not allowed to poo on-site even if you clear up straightaway. Impossible with two elderly dogs unless I put nappies on them until we are out of the gate!
     
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    I agree with John, Dogs should be on non extending leads in any place where the public is present. I have friends who take their dogs on dead end country lanes, the type that only tractors ever go up. I think this is suitable for dogs to run free. But public footpaths, woodland walks and any place you would expect the public to be are not.

    I know there are well behaved, well trained dogs out there who respond immediately to every order no matter what is distracting them. But how do we say if your dog is well behaved you don't need a lead? We can't distinguish so the rule should be a blanket rule.. Dogs must be on a lead at all times.

    As for people not cleaning up after their dog the fine should be £1000. That might act as a deterrent to the minority who don't.
     
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    I agree with above comments short leads should be banned in public places also dog mess should ALWAYS be picked up there is no excuse were it is , a friend of mine who was a very good rugby player lost his leg because of someone to lazy to clean their dogs mess up.
     
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    Totally agree with the cleaning up of dog mess. But what about cats? They come in to your garden, scrape, do what they have to , flick some dirt at it and leave. Not the best...... Also what about the people that go about spitting or spitting out chewing gum. Not very hygenic practices either.:Smile:
     
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    Nope! This is all going a bit too far. It is lovely to see people in the park throwing balls and frisbees for their dogs and the children running in among them. It's just all good family fun. Not everybody lives near countryside where they can exercise their dogs off the lead, so are you saying that people who live in towns and have dogs can never let them off the lead? Some dogs are just full of vim, viguor and irrepressible joy and it would be cruel to keep them constantly tethered and not allowed to run free. I really think this country would be losing something valuable if that became law. :BigGrin:
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    Ivy - Can you imagine Rosie on the lead at all times ? :Smile:
     
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    I went to this camp site last year and found the pitches too close together and the facilities dirty and disorganised - the showers gobbled up coins! It may be in a great location, but it was expensive for what it offered, and from where we were pitched we could hardly see the sea! The festival may be good value, hard to tell, but I shan't be going back to Henry's. I don't remember seeing any dogs there, but the hens poo everywhere!
     
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    Dogs should be kept on leads even in the Countryside.

    We, those that saw it, laughed, at ,

    "FENTON!! Jesus Ch***t Fenton!"

    But imagine if it were sheep? Or Cows? and there was an angry Farmer doing a bit of rodent control, a 22 under his arm?

    He would be legally justified in shooting your Furry Person:Sad:
     
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    We love dogs - detest some owners - extending leads on camp sites are not keeping them under control we have had items pee'd on by dogs while the owner is busy jawing and the dog some 6 metres away is doing its own thing . Long wander leads from an awning are also not keeping them under proper control. People often allow dogs to run out of sight and out of control on 'waste' or Moorland and wonder why dogs should be on a lead - a dogs natural instinct is to hunt. Much of the moorland in the UK is a natural habitat for ground nesting birds - some quite rare - many farmers have grazing riights on moorland and therefore young animals are about . The fact there is a public footpath over the area does not mean it is all open for wandering on - a public footpath is generally 1 metre wide and that is the part that truly has public access and that includes the dog. Most times there is no problem and many land owners have no issues but if there is a sign saying dogs on a lead please acknowledge that - there is probably a very good reason for it even though you may not understand or see it.:thumb:
     
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    Rosie? on a lead? doesn't bear thinking about. I'd chew it through for her. Now that's a happy wee dog who'd never hurt a fly. :BigGrin:

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    other way round in that case!!

    Owners of dogs are responsible for the dogs behavior at all times, dogs are animals and can revert to basic instinct for no apparent reason - not apparent to us humans that is

    Weve had a number of dogs over the years, all bar one (one of the current ones) were rescues, having no idea about their background we always assume there is a trigger somewhere so keep them on leads, enough length to let them sniff about and the like, but no more than a few feet from us and likewise always assume other dogs have a trigger too. When a Dog is on a lead the flight response is not an option so fight is the normal response if triggered - even if its never done it before

    We are fortunate to have open fields etc at the back of the house so the dogs can run to their hearts content, and there is no public access so no worries about another dog being around (cows yes...but not dogs!), everywhere else they stay on the lead, no worries then other than watching out for other dog owners who think there dog is friendly and let it off the lead or dont have it under 'control' on a long lead...and then meeting one of our two triggers something...

    The aforementioned current one has a thing about big dogs - typical small dog syndrome, and even thought that Haggers black bear was fair game......theyre mates now though:BigGrin: even friends on facebook:Eeek:
     
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