Tyres Continental V Michelin Camper

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  1. haganap

    haganap Funster Life Member

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    Im fitting 4 new tyres to the van.

    Wondered if anyone has had BOTH of the above and could give an opinion between the two please.

    225/75/16 and Im paying between £550 and £850 for a set.
     
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    Whilst I have not had both types fitted, I currently have the Continental Camper tyres fitted and very happy with them. I did hear last year that they were regarded by some experts as even better than the Michelin's. I would go for the cheapest of the two as they are both the two best motorhome tyres out there.
     
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    We got 50k+ miles, with original tyres, Michelin, so we replaced with the same, from advent tyres who fitted with new valves as well, :thumb: http://www.event-tyres.co.uk/
     
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    I put Michelin camper tyres on last year my brother who was in the tyre business a few years ago told me that Michelin were were the best one's.
     
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    Watching this one closely Paul as I'm about to replace all 4 of the same size.
    I thought you advocated the use of top end van tyres with the correct load ratings? Or have you discovered a down side?

    Regards Vlad
     
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    Paul will you let me know when you have the new tyres.

    And where you park:Rofl1:

    Mel
     
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  8. haganap

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    No not really Vlad, But I have been researching alot today and asking some tyre manufactures some searching questions. I initally wanted the Avon AV11 which is the new replacement for the AV9 which I was telling you before I had on my last van. However the maximum pressure is 65 PSI. Although the load is the actually bigger than the camping tyres, the tech guy said not advisable as with the van fully loaded to 4500kg I would be running at pretty much top pressure constantly. Currently I run at about 63 psi all round, so potentially could be a problem. My last van with the AV9's was 3750 T and I only ever ran about 58psi F and 60 PSI rear.

    If there was a money no object scenario, then its the camping tyres, Ive decided to invest in that route. It's just a bummer that they need doing now, I thought I would ignore the 5 year rule, keep a close eye on them and get 6 year out of them. Turns out they were made in the 10th week of 2006 so nearly 7 years old a full 2 years older than the MH. Some signs of wear evident and I just never take the risk with tyres.


    http://whichtyres.com/2012/05/do-i-need-camping-tyres-for-my-motorhome/

    Its really weird Billy that your Brother should tell you that? Every bit of research Ive seen puts the continental at the top in all tests from Braking to Fuel effieciency.

    Which suprised me and therefore hence the question.
     
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    We have just had ours replaced ( same size )
    I would strongly urge you to shop around.
    I was quoted £480 fitted and balanced for the Michelin 10 ply camper van tyres, but ended up going with Hancook 10 ply Camper tyres at £420

    And my goodness am I glad I did !!

    They are REALLY quiet, ride about 3 times better than the original Michelins and we even get VERY slightly better mpg ..
    Transformed the whole experience :thumb:
     
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    Where did you buy from? A local garage or a national.


    Vlad





    Ps What weight is your mh.
     
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    Local.. A place called Burrell Way Tyres in Thetford
    The number is 01842 766069
     
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    from experience more with car tyres than the camper i always found the michelins didn't wear out as quickly but when it came to grip in the wet ( which we seem to get more of these days ) the michelins were one of the worst and dunlop was one of the best.

    personally i wouldn't go for michelin if not doing the mileage equivalent to the starship enterprise and would prefer to replace tyres due to wear rather than age deterioration.
     
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    Hi Paul i have just ordered 2 Dunlop sp60/lt winter tyres for my van for when we go skiing. The main reason i bought these tyres was the load rating 112/115. I hope it does the trick because my rear tyres always look overloaded , which it probaly is due to all the crap i carry with me.
     
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    Sadly that will be advice for someone to bear in mind when they are sat on the hard shoulder with a blow out in their 20 year old camper with only 40000 miles on it. Age degeneration is potentially lethal, bit good luck with it :thumb: but that's for another thread.


    Ian, Ive seen your van and the crap you carry. TBH mate, if you fitted a couple of tractor tyres to it, it wouldn't be enough to carry your load. :Rofl1:
     
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    Not heard of these John, Will check them out.
     
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    Be interested what your findings are Paul hope you share them with us.



    Vlad
     
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    John Jaws, All I can find on the tyres that you mention is conversations surrounding if they are safe or not.... Unfortunately it would be wrong to paste the link here, but the general gist was proceed with extreme caution..... not worth the risk with my weight,.. any how here's a letter from Michlien



    Dear Sir/Madam

    Thank you for your recent e-mail.

    We suggest that individual axle weights from weigh scale readings are used, in order to calculate pressure recommendations for each quoted load condition. These would be preferred, due to readings being taken in the actual vehicle 'running' condition - that is to say, with all water/fuel/baggage & passengers etc. on board - and may result in better comfort if the vehicle is running way below maximum capacity.
    Motorhome’s often run continuously heavily laden, and sometimes overloaded, and the rear axle normally takes the heaviest loads.

    The overall tyre industry, therefore, tries to build-in a safety factor by fitting strong tyres, inflated to high pressure, in order to remove the potential for consequences of overloading &/or under-inflating the tyres. Much of the improved endurance performance of CP motorhome tyres (compared to van “C” type tyres), required for these continuous arduous conditions of use, is

    One 'overall' weight is of no use in calculating tyre inflation pressure levels, since the vehicle may appear to be within the maximum permitted, but in reality may have the rear axle severely over laden & the front axle very lightly laden.

    We believe that the front tyre pressures have a greater influence than the rear tyre pressures on comfort and noise. Therefore, in our opinion, running with 80 psi in the rear tyres, and pressures adapted to the loads, vehicle characteristics and operating conditions in the front tyres, will give

    As a guideline from the axle weights that you have supplied on the tyre size of 225/65 R16 C and being the XC Camping or the Agills camping the pressures for those weights are as follows:-

    Front axle load of 1850kg the pressure should be – 62psi (pounds per square inch) per tyre
    Rear axle load of 2060kg the pressure should be – 80psi (pounds per square inch) per tyre

    When no axle loads are available, you would be advised to follow the manufacturers recommended pressures, indicated on the fuel cap / door-pillar / vehicle handbook in relation to the tyre size fitted – specifications can change without our knowledge.

    We have allocated your message the reference number indicated above. If you need to contact us again regarding your message, we would be grateful if you could include the reference number.

    Once again thank you for your interest in Michelin.

    Yours sincerely
    Michelin Tyre Public Limited Company
     
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    I replaced my Michelin with the Continentals 225 / 70 / 16 . 116 walls ,

    i paid £132 each fitted, ( best price on the internet was £155 , ) Bush Tyres quoted £135 ,

    I went up from 215 to 225 they were £35 cheaper as they are a more common size .

    I am running 80 psi all round , ( The door pillar says 5.5 bar on 215 )

    The garage put 65 psi in the tyres and the van rolled all over the road and drank diesel , i contacted them and they said that is what they normally out in tyres that size on vans ...

    The ride is far superior to the Michelin tyres and much quieter , i had to turn the sat nav volume down and the pre-set on the radio , Even talking in the van is easier ,

    They feel more positive on steering both in the dry and in the wet, I am pleased with them,

    As regards economy, i have averaged 28 mpg on the Moroccan trip so far (2600 miles ) ,
     
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    Thanks Suggy, That is the type of opinion I was after :thumb::thumb:

    John, Jaws,


    Have a read here, again from another site, but might interest you...


    Latest reply from Hankook, whilest I was on holiday.
    Hello David
    In reply to your e mails that you have stated axle loading details and confirmed rear axle is single wheel fitment, the rear axle of single wheel fitment with a tyre capacity of 2060 kgs and your motor home rear axle loading of1950 has not enough safety margin. The maximum of1855 kgs axle loading is strongly advised not to be exceeded to ensure safe operation and that the tyre you have fitted is not suitable for motor home use.
    Chris Baxter
    Technical Service Manager
    Hankook Tyre UK Ltd
     
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