security versus power tools

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  1. duetto owner

    duetto owner Read Only Funster

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    I have been loking at security for my motorhome and have the alarm/immob and keep the driveway gates padlocked I was thinking about a wheellock or secure gate posts.

    then saw this home cctv video clip of how quick some one had their caravan stolen by a couple Itinerants who sawed off a wheelclamp, hitchlock and gate post and alarm within 10 mins.

    any other options other than tracker to secure angainst power tool armed thieves.http://www.caravanchannel.co.uk/2009/players/YTstolen.html
     
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    Put it up on axle stands.
    Remove wheels.

    You'll prevent your tyres getting flat spots into the bargain.
     
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    Stealing a Motorhome with an immobiliser should be harder than stealing a caravan anyway.
     
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    One of the most awkward to remove without the key is a DiskLock
    there are cheap ones on fle-bay at about £13-£17 But im refering to the original that goes by that name @ Hallfrauds etc about £45-£60
    Full steel cover of the steering wheel im sure you have seen them
    Road wheel clamps as used by London traffic control £80 to £120 on fle-bay you wont get those off in 5 mins I have 3 that we use on the forcourt,never lost one in 15 years :thumb:
    Geo
     
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    Any chance of a name or a link please Geo?
    I've just had a look at Fleabay and there's dozens of different ones but they all look like the one that didn't save my Dads twin axle from the Itinerants!:Angry:
     
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    Yes we would be interested also or if possibly some info of what they look like
    thanks
     
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    Hi Paul
    Pictures No 5--13--15 are the ones I have, there seems to be a price link also (Round disc over wheel) no makers name on mine now, I googled London wheel clamps as that was what they used at the time I bought mine, they seem to be using a pi55 poor triangle one now:Doh:
    Geo
    Pics here sorry link is for price of the pics
     
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    Thatcham describe their cat 3 security devices as

    RISK MANAGEMENT ADVICE – VEHICLE RISK
    High Risk - Cat 1
    Medium Risk - Cat 2
    Lower Risk - Cat 3
    High and medium risk vehicles may have Cat1/Cat2 systems supplemented by Cat3 to further increase protection.
    [Diesel vehicles Cat L1, L2, L3]


    I'd say the guys in the vid were ams.
    A decent winch will drag almost any motor with wheel locks and a steering wheel lock onto a recovery truck that'll carry it's weight in a very short space of time.

    2 grand'll buy a working recovery truck.
    Paid for in the first job.

    This one didn't reach it's price if you want a start-up.
    Recovery Truck In Good Condition on eBay, also Lorries Trucks, Lorries Trucks, Commercial Vehicles, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 08-May-09 12:47:53 BST)

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    GEO

    Our local Halfords has poor stock of everything bar cycles, do you have any links for disk locks as not too sure what they are.
     
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    This any good? £97-87p
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    Or this?
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    Only if the tea-leaf hasn't heard of battery power angle grinders I'm afraid John.

    Milwaukee Electric Tool
     
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    The clip I posted has put me off wheelclamps, years ago had a bulldog one but if you hit the side with a hammer the lock poped open. but those power tools cut through them like butter.

    disklok looking a possible runner.
     
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    We l had a english van l had a removable steering wheel which was good as it also let you turn the seat a little more, now with my yank l have fitted deadlocks to the doors and it as a alarm, a good tip which costs nothing is take a bit out the engine or disconnect a lead when you park up in a dodgy place Paul:thumb:
     
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    Always helpful TV showed how to cut a segment out the disk and steering wheel.
    Then turn the disk so that a bit of steering wheel sticks out.
    Flex the steering wheel below or above the disk.
    Then turn the disk off the steering wheel I'm afraid Duetto Owner.
     
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    thats given me seconds thoughts now. thanks.
     
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    And in the follow up program they showed Virgil, or was it tracy come along with Thunder Bird 2 and lift the otherwise totaly secure Motorhome away all in less than 3 mins,
    No one heard the retros from the rockets either:Doh:
     
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    They dun it with a recovery rocketship Geo.

    The neighbours thought it was a Kosha recovery.
     
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    I have just spoke with disklok and the cutting a segment on a transit steering will will make it difficult to slide it round and off.

    will decide next week after a few days pondering. unless some other option comes up.

    i remember years ago there was a yellow thing that locked onto tyre valves and if the vehicle went over 10mph the tyres deflated but not seen any of these around and no one seems to have heard of them.
     
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    thats the one....:thumb:

    took us 45mins workshop time to cut one of those buggers off with an angle grinder.......without damaging the customers car ofcourse:Doh:

    but if we'de known about the biro top trick back then it would have been a doddle.
    probably changed the lock design by now though.
     
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