Security on French Aires

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  1. david1805

    david1805 Deleted User

    Hi all , we are making a trip from britain to Italy through France , i notice you are mostly talking about Spain ? does overnight stays in service stations still apply as we had intended to stop on route when we get tired , If we have to use sites it will put a big expence on our trip , any advice will be appreciated cheers david



    ADMIN...EDIT - this post was moved from an old thread about Spanish Aires.
     
  2. Parcverger

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    Advice is NEVER stop overnight on an aire on a free motorway, and try to avoid doing so on any motorway. Get off of the motorway and visit some of the aires in villages - generally you will be OK there.

    If you stop for a meal on a motorway aire make sure you take money and passports with you - thieves know that motorhomes and caravans offer rich pickings! During the day it is not so much of a problem, but ALWAYS arm your security system (this applies whenever you leave your motorhome or during any night when you are asleep).

    Off the beaten track France is beautiful and generally totally safe, but thieves concentrate on the through routes in all countries, including Spain and Italy.
     
  3. Don Madge

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    Hi David,

    Motorway aires are best avoided in France especially in the high season. There are plenty of town/village aires just of the motorways that are a lot safer.

    There is a French aires guide available in English see Motorhome Buying Guide,motorhome books,living in a motorhome,motorhoming around Europe,go motor homing questions,motor home holidays enjoy your trip.:thumb:

    Don
     
  4. Jim

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    People get pickpocketed in busy tourist areas in almost every city of the world every single day. This information should just make us more careful about where we keep our wallet and handbags and ensuring we spread our cash between our partners and the motorhome. It shouldn't stop us visiting those cities.

    Choose where you park carefully, whilst the pickpocket likes crowds, most crooks don't, so that nice out of the way parking place might look attractive to both you and the crooks. Try to park in such a way that you can drive immediately away from an incident, never drink when wild camping, the effects are akin to gassing!

    If just intent on getting somewhere then some people choose to drive at night and then park up in a busy public place to get some sleep in the day, This might be safer than parking up at night, though of course if you are touring this is impractical.

    My advice would be, don't worry about your security, but do think about it.

    You will be one of tens of thousands all over over Europe, camping without incident. Have a great holiday:thumb:
     
  5. johnsandywhite

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    :RollEyes: One again I will mention the fact that for over 11 years we have been traveling through France to Spain including 7 years of Wild Camping. We have stayed on Aires, Truck stops, Motorway service stations and everything in between. Not ONCE have we been attacked or had any attempts at being broken into.
    Perhaps WE are lucky? Just take the normal everyday precautions where and when you park. Happy travlling and PARKING. :Wink:
     
  6. scotjimland

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    Bike theft on French aire

    French aires are by and large very safe, we have just returned from an 8 month trip to France where we used aires exclusively (apart from a 7 night stay at Parc Verger) . but... we did have a bike theft at Capbreton Aire. ( the second bike theft in two years) :Sad:
    Our three bikes were behind the RV, secured to the fence with a strong wire bike lock and covered with a tarp. The thief had targeted my bike, an expensive Trek mountain bike and left the other two on the grass. The wire had benn 'cropped'.
    Capbreton was busy, upwards of a hundred motorhomes, all with at least two bikes, but mine was the only one stolen that night.On reporting to the aire warden she said that it was professional thiefs who target bikes and steal only the best ..

    My advice is to put bikes back on the rack at night, (not tied to a fence or rail) secure with the best lock you can afford, cover and (note to oneself) install a loop alarm..

    Jim
     
  7. yodeli

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    Advices from the frenchie froggy!

    When stopping on a french area, especially if it's a small one, check first of all if there are cars with man (or men) waiting inside. Then ,have a look at the registration number.The 2 last numbers indicate you if the person is a traveller or a local. You should all have a map of France with all the departments numbers.
    Cause if it's a local , you'd rather change of area. Most of the time the robbers take rid of their treasure in the nearest town in order not to be arrested with it. Women/children as well should be carefull the same way especially if toilets doors have wholes. Cause if they are not robbers ,they are depraved!!!! These are not too far away from home(wives are waiting for them most of the time!!)
    I try to find a map with the departments numbers and will post it!

    Hoping to have been useful

    Amicalement
    Frankie
     
  8. sostas

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    Hi David,
    Like many others we have used French aires for several years without incident. The accepted wisdom (and we abide by this) is to never use aires on motorways. We only use aires in villages/small towns or if one is not available we park sensibly within the village.
    To a lesser extent we have used sostas in Italy and areas in Spain.
    Not very scientific, but we always go with our instincts - if it does not 'feel' right then we do not stay. :Smile::thumb:
    Sostas
     
  9. yodeli

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    Hello everybody!

    I found a map you can print so according to the numbers you can easily find out who is who!

    Have a nice time in France

    Amicalement

    Frankie:Smile:
     
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    Good tip checking on the number plate, as you say unlike the UK in France it is easy to see if the car is from the local area. I assume in France you have to register the car for your area when you buy it unlike our system where the reg. number stays with the vehicle. Local cars on a motorway aire are probably not uncommon but the chances of them being up to no good would be higher than one from a different area.
     
  11. Jim

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    Checking the number plate is always a good idea, but locals do "hang out" at some town and village aires and that does not necessarily mean that they are up to no good. Most thieves are opportunists , just don't present them with an opportunity that they can't refuse. That you have noticed the car is the most important thing. This says that you are alert to your surroundings. Most victims of crime are totally surprised because they are totally switched off to what's going on around them. :Smile:
     
  12. yodeli

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    :Doh:I never talked about aires in town or village but only on hightways aires and especially the little ones where there's nothing else to do but rest or go to the toilets, and even so it doesn't mean they are up to no good. But as you said it's a way to get alerted!:Wink:

    Of course local can be on aires! Sometimes they go on aires for their sunday picnic because they live in a flat and never see the grass colour!:Cool:


    amicalement,

    Frankie:Smile:
     
  13. frogijock

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    Yodeli,s advice regarding the department number (last 2) is good advice, unfortunatly the new number plates being issued in France do not have the department number on them.
     
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    Hi !

    Well i was very surprised by what you said about changing the way of registering vehicules.
    Toulouse is a big city and i've never seen any new car registered in a different way.
    So i had a look on french web just to be sure. New numbers will appear in 2009/01. I don't know wether you can see or not the joined document. It says how it will look like. Up on the left side there will be a small area saying where the owner is from.
    I know nothing more.

    Amicalement,
    Frankie:Smile:
     
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    LOCOM-FRANCE - © 1999-2003 Sylvain Chardon

    I tried to print the map i posted and .... i could hardly see a thing!:Blush:

    So i send you a link with a nice and much bigger card with numbers and names of french departments

    I'm gonna try again to see if you can have a better print!:Wink:


    Amicalement
    Frankie:Smile:
     
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    Yeepee yeeeee! it works all right!


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    FRankie:Smile:
     
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    got robbed on French motor way aires last year . we will never use them again . the small village ones are ok. been doing motor way aries for years before and had no probs but last year relly put the wind up me :Doh:
     
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    Hi Theresa, what happened at the aire?
     
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    went on an aries near narbonne, looked ok 2 other motor homes and a caravan , plus a restaurant open all night , so we thought it looked o,k . in the past we have hid all our goodies away and not gone to bed , just lay on the settees , what did we do but went to bed and ME like a fool put everything in my bag, any way woke at midnight and thought oh we will stay a few more hours , 3 oclock woke to find a man in the van who when i yelled at him crabbed the first thing he got his hands on which was a cushion plus my bag. passports , money the lot. we been doing aries for years . i cant get over the fact the i was so darn stupid to have put every thing in my bag . i guess because its never happened to us before that we just became complacent .the police in narbonne do not work at night so had to wait till 8 o, clock for them to turn up, only to be told OH IT HAPPENS EVERY NIGHT HERE.:Doh:
     
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    Theresa how did they get in your van? did you not hear them I would die if I woke and someone was standing beside my bed.Thats why I like to have the dog with us she would go mad if someone tried to get in.

    Val
     
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