Remap done at Shepton!

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  1. W18BLA

    W18BLA Funster

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    Hey peeps just come back from Shepton and whilst there as people there will know we had our 2010 1000 mile 1 month old Ducato 2.3 Remapped..

    Well on the way down i always reset the trip and get a new mpg reading for the journey and it was a average 21.4mpg not bad for a new van will get better. But whilst at the show "WOW" where doing a discounted show price of £247 with a money back if i was not happy so after a good chat i said yes...

    I was told a much better performance and mpg and as i have had a car done along time ago i know it does work but how well on the MH, Well the performance is amazing it pulls far better i would say it has to have increased the pull by 25% awesome. And after i reset the trip again before i left we headed off, Now i was like a kid with a new toy with the new power so i didnt hang about and the new MPG figures when i got home where 24mpg an amazing increase for a van not run it yet..

    So all-in-all i am one happy bunny and i recon it was 100% the right choice WOW will be getting a nice email from me.. If you thinking about having it done don't hesitate DO IT!

    Figure's

    Standard - Remapped

    129bhp - 164Bhp+

    320nm - 403nm+

    21.4mpg - 24 and Climbing :)
     
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    How will that affect your insurance?

    ShiftZZ
     
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    dont forget to tell your insurance!! and let us know how much more (if any) premium it cost you
     
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    bugger just beat me to it
     
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    Interesting post!!

    Care to expand!!

    LOL

    ShiftZZ faster than Dellwood 33 on a pushbike!!:Rofl1:
     
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    not really I just slop off and whatch the monaco gp I recorded earler....
     
  7. W18BLA

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    Basically the change in the engine map is extremely hard to diagnose, even with the right equipment to compare it with. Secondly to say something has been modified you have to compare it to the original and with only one map on the MH what can you compare it against to prove it has been modified.

    A ECU can be flashed regular at any Fiat dealer for ECU upgrades these can be for any problem accuring from other faults found on other vehicles, and could have power increase or decrease in them to stop other problems. So that would mean i would have to tell my Insurance everytime there is a ECU flash update needed. Would i get discount if i had to have my power lowered because Fiat said it needed it to cure a problem...

    So i think i will give the insruance company a miss.... But if i ever decide to tell them i know i could get there faster in my MH now....

    :Smile::Rofl1:
     
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    does this affect your FIAT warranty? I would have thought so as I have read it has in the past
     
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    so you spend 40k on a new h/m then have the ecu upgraded and dont tell the insurnace ,which could invaladte it, possibly cancle the fait warranty, and tell the world on here.....


    :Eeek:mmm
     
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    What you are doing is illegal and could result in more than just the loss of your 40k investment. Worth thinking about. For all you know the re-mappers could be obliged to inform the authorities of any remapping they carry out. :Sad:
     
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    More power, better economy , sounds too good to be true .. ?

    That's what I thought ..

    An interesting article that explains Remapping A Turbo Diesel Engine

    Note the advice about shorter service intervals, clutch , brakes and informing your insurer.
     
  12. W18BLA

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    Ok i am getting alittle fed up with some of your silly reply's....

    One ECU remapping is not "Illegal" if it was then the service in the UK would not be aloud and the poor police force would not be aloud to have there BMW 335D remapped to what they use now. So if the police can do it so can i. By law, all new cars must have a dip in power in the engine map between 2000 - 3000RPM. The intention of this law was that it would reduce emissions, but in fact all it means is that people put their foot down more in this rev range to compensate for this dip, which of course actually increases emissions and wastes fuel. "Buttons" give WOW a ring and tell them this and see what reply you get from them and please post back there reply... TEL: 08456 529530..

    Second:

    As stated before remapping is invisable so why would my warranty be void. I had my old car remapped and the dealer knew this and never cared the only thing it will effect is the warranty on the ECU and WOW state this with there sale - " Does it affect the manufacturers warranty?
    The remap is invisible to manufacturer’s diagnostic equipment. Additionally many forward thinking manufacturers turn a blind eye to a quality remapping service, knowing that a properly enhanced vehicle can only ever benefit them. In the extremely unlikely event of a fault being attributable to our Quantum remap, then our own warranty kicks in. "

    So as said before i aint worried and i don't know why anyone else is worried for me.

    I must say one thing most of you on here have effected warranty on your MH at some point. Fitting Solar panels to your roof "VOIDS" Warranty to your roof if it leaks from the fit, Fitting Satelite dishes "VOIDS" warranty if roof leaks as these are not factory fit, If a dealer fitted it then they would warranty this just like my remap but the manufacture would not..

    People need to look into things before posting and thinking they know what they are talking about, I walked to my Dealer at Shepton and asked about a remap before i talked to WOW and the Dealer said straight away "I will take you over to these they are fantastic they do all ours" i could have paid £500 before i collected my motorhome from the dealer to have it done by them but i didn't...

    Anyone else want to have a dig and loose i have more knowledge for you all...

    :Rofl1:
     
  13. Jim

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    Would the insurer be interested in a deisel engine remap? Would they bother to check if a motorhome had been souped up? :Smile: Has anyone who has claimed on their insurance had their motorhome checked for this?

    I can understand them being interested in adding BHP to some boy racers Subaru but I can't imagine them being bothered about adding a bit of power to a motorhome. Are they?

    Has anyone told their insurers about re-mapping, did the premium go up? Is it a token amount or do they sting you?
     
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    Yes, I did last year.. Was asked why I had it done.. Told them for economy..
    Answer came back 2 hours later that as they ( the insurers ) did not cover the engine they were not really interested but had made a note so they knew and had approved it


    Also had ever Smart Car I have ever owned remapped.. On the few occasions I have had cause to go to a Merc dealer I have always told them and every time they said thanks for letting them know as it saves a lot of shouting if they reset every thing !! :BigGrin:

    Never once was there a suggestion the remap might cause a warranty issue and it never did
     
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    We had a Van Aaken Smart Box fitted to our motorhome which has the same effect as an engine re-map. We informed our insurers, stating the increase in B.H.P. and torque. They replied saying that they had noted and amended their records accordingly and that there would be no increase in premium.

    Brisey
     
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    Probably not Jim but I’m sure that you wouldn’t condone keeping such information from the insurance company's, higher premium or not.
     
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    We have a torque tech box fitted to ours, we had notified the insurers who wanted a copy of our invoice etc for their records. It did incur an increase in the premium, but not much and it was something that we had from the beginning of owning it (previous fit from other owner).

    We explained it was to help with torque and not to do with speed. It does count as a modification though, so it is always best to inform your insurance company.

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    Hi W18BLA!

    It was good to meet you at the show and thank you for you kind comments about our remap, its good to get feedback and I genuinly appreciate it.:Smile:

    To 100% clarify on the insurance situation as this is something we deal with on a daily basis.

    Firstly, as a responsible company we have a duty to advise customer to inofrm their insurance company of a modification - in fact this applies to any modification, be it remap, alloy wheels or a sat dish.

    Whether the customer actually informs their insurer is clearly down to them. Fact is that the modification is visually invisible and virtually impossible to detect, so often they dont.

    That said its a motorhome, its not a sporty Subaru and the typical motorhomer is a spotty 19 year oik with no experience! Because of that and work that we have done with the motorhome insurers, it very unlikely to cause them a problem or excuse for a premium hike.

    The specialist insurers like Comfort, Caravanguard etc are usually no problem, some like Saga entirely depend on which operator answers the phone and which way the wind will blow next Thurday. Sometimes the huge insurers where you are simply a number can be awkward, as they can separate you from said 19 year old!

    In 99 of cases when and insurer is informed that you have had "an economy remap by Wow Tuning' its a simply note on the policy, occasionally we have to confirm details by email or post, which were happy to do. If you have any doubts whatsoever, simply call you insurer.

    :thumb:Shepton was as great show, hello to all the new friends we have made.:thumb:

    Finally Buttons, a remap is NOT illegal in anyway shape or form; Mercedes for instance offer a remap service called the Brabus upgrade through their dealer network and we undertake remaps for many public/goverment bodies. It also would not be illegal to not inform your insurance company and you are not looking to defraud them, or take a vehicle on the roads which would normally be insurable. Simply letting them know about a remap does stop a potential payout wriggle, however.


     
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    I'm equally sure you would not condone it either.
     
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    [FONT=&quot]Absolutely not Jim:Eek!:[/FONT]
     
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