Price of vans

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  1. chaser

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    I know there is another thread going on along these lines but thought this deserves another.
    Have you thought a fiat chassis cab maybe costs 10 grand when bought in bulk so where does the other £40,000 go in building a motor home all it is ,is a bit of 2x2pine a bit of tin and plastic and wire and lights and stuff , if you say that costs £10000 surly for 30 grand labour they could put it together right, I would expect to build my own house for that labour
     
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  2. busby

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    I will never understand the cost. They say its harder to fit a van out than a coachbuilt. Cant see it but what do i know. BUSBY:Laughing:
     
  3. bailey

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    You have answered your own question 30k to build a house labour another 50k Matt why a sell cost of 200k plus
     
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    Not quite, have you looked at the price of fridges, cookers, toilets etc?
     
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    if your talking PVC type they are a rip off.

    coachbuilt is different...its all the little bits that add up.

    maybe 30 tubes of sikaflex at £8 or £9 a pop.

    quite a few litres of epoxy resin

    cooker

    water heater

    van heater

    all £400/£500 each

    windows...maybe £150/£200 each

    it all adds up in dribs and drabs
     
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    Got to agree!

    Looked at a 5 year old chasson on sunday for our first MH at £30000.

    Got thinking:Doh:

    Base chassis ( if a van) worth about £5000 max...

    Makes the back worth £25000!!!.........Never???

    Cant get my head around it
     
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    I know, they are incredibly expensive, but, they are hand built and relatively low volume.
    I'm not defending the industry, but a LWB chassis cab in 2010 cost between £21K and £27K, I don't suppose many manufacturers would be able to buy and store too many to make much of a saving on bulk buys, if they did, then I expect a 5-10% reduction.
    No idea how much an Al-Ko chassis would cost, but they would still have to buy a chassis cab to convert.

    Still expensive though, and you would think they would be perfect when they come out of the factory, but some do seem to contain some poor workmanship or design idiosyncrasies!

    Allan.
     
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  8. Mikeco

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    I think that the original post mentioned a Chassis/Cab which would cost less than a Panel Van, however I can tell you that in May 2012 my new Peugeot Boxer cost £18,000 which included having the front bumper sprayed silver to match the van and a tow bar. I then spent around £9,000 on materials which included some items not found on some vans such as a Autogas underslung tank at £700, Fiamma awning and bike rack at around £1000.
    This meant that I ended up with a fully fitted out van for around £27,000.

    Mike
     
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  9. vwalan

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    they dont buy chassis cabs and convert to alko .
    they buy two cabbs on a purpose made chassis bolted back to back . you very often see them on the ferry,s on trucks of cause . mind they could be push me pull me,s i have seen .
    in 89 it was about 9 grand for a vw 2.1 van . yet it could be 19-21 grand as a high top camper . i built my own then for about 3 grand using new bits .
    self build as always been the way . only had one devon split screen van . after that i knew just what i wanted and built it from scratch .
     
  10. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    I would imagine that the best discount for bulk purchases of chassis/cabs is around 40% if you are very lucky and buy thousands. Most converters dont!

    Then there is the Alko chassis for coachbuilts

    If you look at say a comparable vehicle like a Ford people carrier they are over £31k and they are mass produced on a factory line in their thousands by basically robots unlike a PVC which is hand built

    On the same hand a PVC costing £40k includes delivery, RFL and TWENTY PER CENT VAT ...................just under £8000-00 for a start

    Peter
     
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  11. chaser

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    I have allowed £10000 for this
     
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    Yes, I know what the OP means, it kind of puts you off when you looking for another van, especially when you see the quality of some of the finished ones.

    The ones I like(Mercedes panel vans from a couple of the German converters are about 80 thousand euros:cry::cry:) Criminal.

    Paul.
     
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    If thats the case, then according to Peugeot's pricing as at 2010 ( I assume Fiat would be similar prices) the push me pull you cabs were around £23K each then there is the cost of the fitting of the Al-Ko chassis and rear axles to take into account.

    Still pricey

    Allan

    Edit, its all the VAT, tax, business rates and ridiculously high fuel prices that have to be paid. Then you have to pay the work force, and they pay even more tax. I blame the government.
     
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    Well I reckon that up to £4000, I did say 10 grand
     
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    Why don't you build your own then, or commission it yourself?

    There are so many negative threads running at the moment I am starting to lose the will to live.
     
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    Bin there, dun that, too old for crawling under vans now I'm afraid:Sad:
     
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    I have got all the insides for one in the shed out of a caravan bought for £100 and stripped out been looking for a van but afraid time is catching up with me:Sad: cooker water heater taps shower cubical fridge cupboards the lot.
     
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    Take for example my Topaz, today new they are £57,000, I know it is VW and they are expensive, a larger coachbuilt, £35,000 + for Fiat etc, so is larger better ? or small more quality. at the end of the day you make your choice that you are happy with. myself I am sticking with the VW, just my choice.
     
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  20. cranky

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    Is this the fun site or have I logged on to the wrong one again?
    If you dont like something or you think its to expensive dont buy it. Simples.
    I've just tried to work out why a Mars bar cost fifteen bob, christ there must be some profit in that, but then there is the advertising and the wrapping and the delivery and the ingredients and the rent and rates on the factory and blah blah blah .
    I need a drink now but youve got me thinking now, have you seen the price of a bottle of wine, bloody hell its only a few squashed grapes!! how do they justify the price and so on and so on.
    Now I'm crying and need a tissue. Oh hell, have you seen the price of a box of tissues.




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