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  1. weejohnw

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    Hi There,
    can anyone assist with suggestions for engine oil for the Fiat Ducato 2.3litre 2008 model. I enquired at a Fiat dealer who suggested their oil a "5/40 wide range", had never heard of wide range before. over £60 plus vat! for about 6 litres
    My Mechanic has suggested an alternative should be available but his suppliers have never heard of "wide range" before either.
    Are any of the fully synthetic oils suitable as an alternative?
    Regards, Weejohnw
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    oiul

    Not an expert but as the vans are based on commercial vans check the yellow pages for any garage that deals with commercail vans etc. They should know, Dealers only want to sell you expensive things and Oil aint that expensive!!

    I dare say an expert will come on soon and give the correct answer.:thumb:
     
  3. stagman

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    Wide range it is probabally called because it is from a low 5 to a high 40 .So it's an oil that is suitable for a wide temp range I think. Anyway if you get a good quality semi - synthetic or for £60 you should be able to get a good quality fully synthetic ,:thumb:
     
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    hi, i just googled 5/40 engine oil .came up with opie oils not far from me. they do it starting at about 30 qoid discount is available check itout.
     
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    Not a big fan of Halfords but punch in your reg here for the recommended oil

    Halfords


    also Google " what oil for my car" , that brings up several manufacturers sites..

    jim
     
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    it should tell you in the Fiat owners manual which grade is suitable...

    look for the SAE numbers.

    i Use Valvoline synthetic Blend SAE 5W-30..around £22+vat for 5 liters from the local motor factors.

    2001 Fiat 2.8td engine
     
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    opie oils are very good , only sell quality products , oils , filters all sorts of bits ...prices competitive

    they also give discounts to club/forum members if the site is registered
    a couple of months ago I did send a message to admin here suggesting registration , but nothing happened and motorhome fun is not in their list
     
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    I use fully synthetic from my local motor factors, Unipart,

    Never let me down yet and nothing like that in terms of price but you did say fiat Garage.
     
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    I notice that the last time my VW T5 was serviced the 6 liters of oil cost £70 inc the vat. I only pay £22 for 5 litres for the oil we use to top it up.

    Andy
     
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    thats garage pricing for you.:Angry:


    unscrupulous garages may put cheap oil in and charge you a premium oil price.

    better off supplying your own oil.

    garage i worked at in my recovery days had a bulk tank of semi-synthetic and that went in everything....petrol and diesel, including the recovery fleet (except the merc, that had special oil), unless a customer supplied their own oil.
     
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    5/40 fully syn cold climates
    10/40 fully syn moderate climates
    either of the above
    the wide range and VW @£60-£70 are long/extended service oils
    5/30 fully synth oils are specified for your vehicle as a moderate climate alternative
    gear box oils 75/80 fully syn
    power steering dextron ll
    Geo
     
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    Hi Folks, thanks for all your information
    I thought £68+ vat was sticking the arm in
    Think my mate supplies Vavoline oil, so will likely go with that
    Many thanks
    Weejohnw
     
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    Correct oil spec for Fiat Ducato 2.3 litre 2008 model

    Hi, I checked this out with a contact at Chevron Texaco and they confirm the following:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The oil requirement for this model is for a synthetic meeting ACEA before – our recommendation would be Havoline Ultra 5W-40
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    Hope that helps. I have a pdf copy of the spec sheet (too large to upload) but PM me if you want a copy or info on where to get hold of it near you.


    Keith


     
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    If you are buying Havoline, buy it at Asda! They sell it there, cheaper than the garages can buy it from their suppliers - so you will save a fortune!
     
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    wide range

    wide range to me suggests multigrade.
    a good synthetic motor oil wil be just as good.
    check your manual for the base vehicle it should give you the correct specification for the oil for the van
     
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    personally I change my oil every year at 10/12,000 Km

    any decent semi=synthetic oil is more than capable of that

    if you wish to use longer oil change intervals then it is perhaps worth using fully synthetic oil for it's long life qualities , otherwise don't bother , you are wasting your money
     
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    The vehicle maker will specify the cheapest oil that gets well clear of the warranty period, certainly not the best. This is to enable as cheap a service cost as possible in a competitive market. The dealer could well sell you a much higher quality oil, but is unlikely to use this in a cost controlled service.

    Don't skimp on engine oil as your vehicle can't rid itself of heavy duty work, the weight is always there and in most cases you also have turbos and the issues that brings. The oil cost is trivial in the whole picture given the massive cost of the finished MH and its other costs of ownership.
    It should also be remembered we have a higher cold start to mileage ratio compared to commercial users and this is about the most brutal part the oil is subjected to.

    I would not dream of using either a non fully synthetic or non premium supplier's oil for my personal MH use, but that's not the choice I would necessarily make for my commercial use decisions.
    In my working life amongst other things I used to be responsible for specifying the oils to be used by our customers for a multitude of different equipment fitted in our companies products.
     
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