Oil consumption.

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  1. savantuk

    savantuk Read Only Funster

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    Hi,

    I've just topped up my oil prior to going to Europe at the weeked for a couple of months. My last trip out was post service, so the oil was changed 1400 miles ago. I topped up by 200ml, or 1/5th litre. Is this excessive for 1400 miles?? What do you think??

    Engine is a 2.3 Fiat/Ducato TD.

    Thanks.
     
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    Never put oil in our 2l BUT how do you know it was right before and right now ?

    It seems very dependent on vehicle level ( and when you take the reading ).
     
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    Apart for first 2000 miles and servicing in 15000 I have never had to put oil in it always runs there or there about, I have just looked prior to going away and it is still OK.
    I run a 2.2 Ford.


    Dave:thumb::thumb:
     
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    I'm assuming that the level was correct when it was returned from service Brian. Frankly, I wasn't that bothered, because the level was close to max, but because I'll be doing around 1500 miles over the weekend, I thought I'd top it to the max mark. My drive is just about plumb. 200ml is a tiny amount though, hardly worth bothering about. Handbook says 450ml/1000km consumption. This is 200ml/2200km. Far less than nominal.

    Doug
     
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    I'm assuming that the level was correct when it was returned from service



    Never assume anything, especially were, err, 'professionals' are concerned.

    Me, cynical, never:Blush:
     
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    I resemble that remark:RollEyes:
     
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    I have to say that I've never had cause to doubt the quality of service from the same garage I've been using for 20 odd years.:thumb:
     
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    from what i was taught a diesel, depending on how driven, can replace any burnt/used oil with water (internal engine condensation) over time but unless you drain the oil you'll never know as the oil floats on water and your dipstick will still show max oil level.

    dont know how true this is.......Geo ?
     
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    same here Doug.......i service all my vehicles myself :Cool::BigGrin:
     
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    Without any intention to offend that's c**p Pappa, you've been misinformed, if you get water in the oil it emulsifies and you get "white scum" on the filler cap, dipstick etc. Only after a long hot run (when it boils off) would things look normal. Water in your oil means your engine will soon be toast, brown bread, dead. Especially if its a turbo D.
     
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    All I would say is that I have nether put oil in either of my previous vans or this one or indeed any of my modern day cars. My sound fool hardy but I rarely check the oil. Its all computerised to warn me of a massive problem. I change my oil and filter myself at least by 5k or after a very long trip. I search for any leaks. JTDs of this age and milage just should not be burning oil of that ammount in such a small space of time.

    My answer, Garage misfilled or you have a leak. If you have no leak I would go for option a. If your really unlucky and you have burnt that ammount of oil in 1400 miles, then you have a serious engine problem.:cry:
     
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    absolutely no offence taken :thumb:

    i always had my doubts about it anyway but never gave it anymore thought until this thread appeared. :Doh::Blush:
     
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    Wow so many facts and figures, so many matter of fact statements and you all failed to ask the most important question
    Back to skoooooooooool for the lot of you:RollEyes:

    What mileage has the vehicle covered:Doh:
     
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    its only oil . does it matter if it burns abit . i like the idea of an engine that uses alittle oil ,never bothered me so long as its not loads.
     
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    its an '06 ducato Geo, so unless its been used like a taxi i cant see that having much bearing....surely cant be much more than 50 or 60k tops.:thumb:
     
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    Geo has a point re. what kind of mileage the engine has done......general wear 'n tear etc.

    By comparison my '93 Transit, straight 2.5di (non-turbo) with 113k on the clock, used just 1/2 a litre on a 4,500 mile tour round europe this year which i felt wasn't too bad considering it also leaks oil (local Ford mechanic cannot find where though!).
     
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    Well Geo, I looked at the picture and saw it was a ducato, Being it was a 2.3 I took the initiative and decided it was between 2004-2009 being that the OP ad not previously commented that it has a judder in reverse I took this to be somewhere between 04-06 . I then cleverly noted that the posters info suggests that he has an 06 model. On top of this his hobbies are reading walking and listening to folk music, and the OP is retired and therefore will be busy, indeed he states his last trip out was post service, so this poor gentleman may of well been stuck in his house since 1953 . This equates to the MH having I recon less than 30k on the clock, Indeed I would suggest around the 18k mark.

    So thats how I arrived at my judgement :thumb: This does however explain why Im not a mechanic because to arrive at that answer would of cost the punter 1/2 in labour. :BigGrin:

    Also may I suggest this. Im pretty sure that 200mls is the difference between a full oil and filter change and just a straight oil fill. therefore is it possibe that the garage looked at the wrong figure and simply filled 200mls short.:Blush:
     
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    or simply did the oil/filter change, filled the oil to the required level on the dipstick and started the engine........then walked away without topping up after the filter filled with oil.

    Oh ! thats basicaly what you said...innit?:Doh:
     
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