Multijet 2.3 engines

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  1. Sneezles

    Sneezles Read Only Funster

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    Looking for some advice really, we currently have an Auto-Trail with the 2.8 JTD engine (2004) and are looking at maybe upgrading to a newer one (2008) but it has the 2.3 Multijet engine.

    I have been told that they are as good as but other people have said they just dont have the power but we have noticed that most the newer MH's seem to have them in?

    Does anybody have any opinions please.:Smile:
     
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    2.8 JTD had 127 BHP, 2.3 multijet has 130BHP and is a much more refined engine.

    D.
     
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    what about reverse gear ?
     
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    Yes it has one:Wink:
     
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    uhless its a 2.8 JTD power when it has 148 bhp....
     
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    Dave - I wondered about the bhp, found the 2.3 one but couldnt find the 2.8 one.:Smile:

    Lebesset - Hmm, have heard about reverse judder, not good then?:Sad:

    Wireman - Don't think it is the "Power" version, not that I know of anyway.:Doh:

    Geo - Hopefully does have a reverse gear, not too good at pushing!!:Rofl1:

    So, can we have a vote on it then, 2.3 yay or nay or stick with the 2.8 and save some money!:BigGrin:
     
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    I think the 'power' version is having it re mapped because it's supposedly not up to the job in standard trim. I managed away with 2.5 naturally aspirated and 2 litre petrols in the past and they were fine for 'holiday' cruising.
     
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    I have a 2.8 JTD and don't have a problem with it. Acceleration is fine, hardly any difference between laden or unladen,no problem with reverse, doesn't like long inclines much but other than that I like it.
     
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    from talking to others I wouldn't buy one of these [ ie the current model ] used unless fiat had installed the new gearing under guarantee ; of course , if you are buying new the changes have been made I would hope

    if the work has been done , absolutely no problem that I have been told about , but if it hasn't the value of the vehicle is reduced , I'm told it costs fiat over £1,000 to modify the vehicle , which would be at least £3,000 if you had to pay yourself

    anyway , look at the lengthy thread on this forum
     
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    Derek - We only do holiday cruising and now too far either!!:Smile:

    Mejulie - We already have the 2.8 JTD and are happy with it but the one newer one we are looking at has the 2.3 multijet in it.:Smile:

    Lebesset - The one we are looking at still has nearly a year Manufacturers warranty so maybe covered for the modification? - Or not maybe?? :Smile:

    :thanks: for the replies, please keep them coming!
     
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    We have the 130 multijet 2.3 Fiat and its the 20101 model and yes they have been sorted out, Tez says it drives like a dream with no reverse judder so all is ok, we worried a bit even with the salesman telling us all has been sorted as they dont all tell the truth but this engine drives and holds the road marvelously he says, I havent driven it yet as it is a bit daunting to me being quite big it is 23 feet long but Tez being an ex truck driver holds no fear for him and he absolutely loves the cruise control!!! and Susie our yorkie loves the air conditioning by the way!!
     
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    sneezles , ask to see the paperwork for the fiat modifications to the gearbox , new clutch etc
    try reversing the vehicle up a nice steep hill to see what you think ; I think the chassis guarantee is 3 years from fiat ,but best check!!!

    if it hasn't been done make it a condition of purchase , fiat will try and fob you off as all vehicle manufacturers do !

    no paperwork for the mods and it will probably cost you real money when they day comes to trade it in!
     
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    Have asked the owners and they said it drives perfectly and didn't seem to know anything about a modification. It has just under a year warranty left, thanks for the advice how to try it as we haven't really got a clue! :Doh:
    Am wondering now if our trusty one is worth keeping instead but the mention of cruise control, air con in the cab and the few extra gadgets on the Cheyenne gets hubby neeeeeeeding a newer one! What is it with men and gadgets - or shouldnt I ask :Wink:
     
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    We have the 2.3 unit on our Hobby. Fine engine, seems to be powerful and quite torquey. Lets us buzz along at 80 on the continent, where allowed, and rarely needs 4th except on the steeper and longest of hills.
     
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    :Eeek: Stay away!! Keep your present van until one that's guaranteed modded comes your way!!
     
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    And, folks,

    If recent posts on the other (MMM) forum are anything to go by, don't place too much faith in the 'mods' either! I know that the most recent one concerns a 2010 autosleeper Nuevo (judders madly on grass) -- on a Peugeot base, but other reports name recent Fiat (2009) models also -- buyer beware! -- as usual
     
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    Ours is on the 2.3 Multijet we are always at 3500kg limit, certainly not lacking in performance, flys along, with out the cruise control on very easy to find yourself way over the legal limit. Acceleration & top speed more than adequate.

    Reverse judder has not been a problem for us, only seems to effect some vans. We still had the mods done just to get a lower reverse gear, still very high.
     
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    If you've got a van that suits your needs and are only really changing for the sake of it, then keep what you have. You can get cruise control fitted (we did) and it works just as well as the original stuff installed by Fiat. Cab air-con - ask yourself how much you will really used it.

    The supposed 'fix' unfortunately in some instances doesn't work, for some it does appear to work but only time will tell if there is any damage still (especially to the clutch which is not normally covered under the warranty), and for some the fix can actually make things a lot worse!

    There are at least 6 very LONG threads on the MMM website (www.outandaboutlive.co.uk) and if you are seriously considering changing to a newer van on the X2/50 base vehicle, take the time to read them, they will give you an idea of what can go wrong and you can then make an educated decision as to whether you want to take the risk or not. In the end it has to be up to you but only once you're fully in the picture.

    We changed our van just over a month ago now, staying well clear of Fiat/Peugeot/Citroen based motorhomes and went for a lovely Ford which goes beautifully.:BigGrin:
     
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    IVE GOT NEW 3litre JTD GOES LIKE- - - -OF A SHOVEL. NO WORRIES MATEY.:thumb:
     
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    Just took my new Delaware 2.3 multijet down to Cornwall, ran like a dream, can't fault it, reverse is fine ( no judder ). No room at the inn at Marazion along the sea wall on tuesday, full of motorhomes :BigGrin:. Ended up being sandwiched between two German motorhomers on the pay car park, but i held my own:Eeek:.
    Gotta go, kettles whistling.
     
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