Importing question please ...V55/5 or V55/4?

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  1. Roseandpeter

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    Hi

    I am would appreciate help from anyone who has self imported a new van from the continent....
    been reading lots of threads and still not sure which of the above forms I should complete for the DVLA! I would really like to get it right first time if poss.

    We are collecting our new (from stock) Hymer from Campirama in Belgium in a few weeks and will have a CoC and a certificate of newness. My gut tells me the right form is V55/4 along with a V267 (declaring a new vehicle), but then I am reading several people saying that this will be returned by DVLA as incorrect, and I should complete a V55/5 as the vehicle will have been firstly registered in Belgium even though it is a new one (albeit one Campiram already had in the showroom).

    Any help appreciated....

    Also, if anyone could let me have the words they used that were acceptable to the VCA from the MOT garage for inserting an overlay speedo, adapting the existing lights for RHD I would be very grateful.

    Cant wait to get the van now...
    cheers

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    Judge Mental Funster Deceased RIP

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    You just need to order import pack from DVLA it contains everything you require

    It's not new if pre registered. The plate will be issued from that time. Ask them for build date.
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    Why I say that is they dont have to register showroom vans. Unless a year old. Hope you are getting it vat free as you will have to pay the vat here if it has not covered 6000 miles. Let's be clear it is not new...
     
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    Make sure you pay the VAT ASAP it takes 4-5 days for HMRC & DVLA computers to sync., and include your Nova ref with your DVLA application.
     
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    If you contact these people with the make and model of the base vehicle they will supply an overlay that looks exactly like the original. You just remove the instrument cluster, take off the Perspex screen pull off the speed needle, swop the discs over and reverse the process, much easier than you might think, or ou could get your garage to do it for you.

    As far as the headlights are concerned, if it is an A Class there will be a lever which you move over to change from Lhd to rhd. It can be done from inside the bonnet but I find it easier to remove the headlight unit, again easy but why not ask the dealer to do it for you prior to picking it up.
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    We used V55/4 when we imported new from Germany, last summer. We had no problems at all with DVLA.
     
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    Thanks all for your advice..

    I have already sent for and received the importing pack from DVLA, but my question was posed as I did not feel confident in which one of the two forms I need to complete, as on reading all the forums there seems to be conflicting experiences from people who have self imported....Judgemental has plenty of experience and says that although not a previously owned vehicle it should be registered as a used vehicle on V55/5 (as presumably it will have been registered by the dealer in Belgium) so I will go with that advice- thank you. Vehicle paid for excluding VAT, which simplifies things.

    Thanks very much Lennyhb for the words for VCA - much appreciated. Lockwoods have been very helpful - not so much Camparima who I have asked a couple of times to send me a photo of the dash to ensure I get the correct dial. They are proving very difficult to get any sort of response from by email or phone. Can't even get them to send me their bank details so I can pay them the balance for the vehicle! Hope their aftersales service is better...
     
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    Wait until you get the van, I asked them to send a photo of the dash , they took one of a van in the showroom, it had a different dash to mine. Lockwood will post dial by special delivery so you get it next day .
    If you want Emmanual's mobile number PM me.
     
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    Thanks Lenny, I have his business card from when we were there a couple of months ago with his number on it.
     
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    i expect to be going through the same thing shortly ,just been told that delivery is looking more like february than the original January.
    Im having the dealer carry out fitting some extras,so the rough plan is to go out to Belgium by car to inspect the MH and firm up on a couple of extras and at the same time drop of bedding and some crockery etc then return by public transport to pick up the Motorhome.

    Its an A class so by the sounds of it,the conversion is not too difficult , none the less its a bit stressy:)
     
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    Im sorry if this sounds harsh but if it's registered it is previously owned and not new...it's not rocket science whatever BS dealer tells you. It could well be nearly 2 years old. Ask for build date....

    Is it an A class or T class. If a T (coachbuilt) you will have to buy new headlights as well. I hope you got a good deal on this van....

    The details on wording are all in the VCA docs in import pack....Hence what I suggested

    its not a photo of dash you need but of actual speedo with ignition on which show all warning lights

    have fun:)

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    I don't know where you are in Shropshire, but we had Dave Newell provide the 'Garage evidence that the vehicle meets UK national requirements.' He is very good to deal with, understands motorhomes and, importantly, knows what is required by the process, which may not be the case with your local garage.
     
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    The wording is in VCA docs any mot station can do it...shop around locally
     
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    Hi again

    It is an A Class and i think we did get a good deal. Certainly saved alot on the UK price....

    Might try Dave Newell for our alarm. Has anyone used him to fit their alarm? Thought about Vanbitz but they are some distance from us.
     
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    This 6-month rule for VAT has me a little confused. As I understand it, if vehicle is new either you pay VAT when you import into UK, or you reimburse the dealer at purchase. Just so long as the dealer is repaid. If the vehic
    le is 6 months old and/or has more than 5 or 6k, no VAT is due in the UK on import.

    What would happen if you bought a new vehicle without VAT, registered it to a French address, kept it out of UK for 6 months, then imported to the UK. Would you have to pay VAT in France, or if not would the dealer lose out.
    Do you see what I'm wondering? Also, if the van is only 6 months old, and no VAT is due, does this mean it is priced less VAT at the dealer, or can you claim it back in the UK?
     
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    You have to pay the VAT, a dealer will not let the MH go unless the vat gets paid , you would need to be a vat registered business to be able to take the mh from the dealer without paying the vat .
     
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    You would then pay vat in France as this is the country of first registration if not you would pay it to the dealer.
     
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