Importing from Germany is cheaper .. Fact or Fiction ?

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  1. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    It may be cheaper to buy NEW in Germany ..

    but in my example, second hand prices are not much cheaper..

    I bought a 2001 Hymer B644 from Becks, a reputable UK dealer with a full dealer warranty (not insurance)

    It cost me £19k.. low mileage, one owner.. full service history.. immaculate.



    A quick search on Mobile De . same model Hymer , year range 1999 - 2002 ..

    the first four are slightly cheaper or about the same as I paid.. . the others more expensive, . add the cost and time of going to Germany , bringing it back, having it converted to UK spec. and registering..and MOT.. and if you have a problem, having to go back to Germany for warranty work.

    It 'may' be cheaper buying new or nearly new with a pan European warranty.. but older vans outside manufacturers warranty.. I don't see the advantage.. financial or otherwise..

    Q the Judge who will prove me wrong.. and of course this is a small sample.. and just one model of van..


    HYMER / ERIBA B644
    [​IMG]

    DE - 25761 Büsum
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    HU 09/2015
    94 kW (128 PS)
    23,000 EUR
    26,080 km
    FR 05/2001
    Dealer




    HYMER / ERIBA B-Klasse 644 G 6 Sitz-und Schlafplätze
    [​IMG]

    DE - 31535 Neustadt a. Rbge
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    90 kW (122 PS)
    25,890 EUR
    129,000 km
    FR 04/2000
    Dealer




    New
    HYMER / ERIBA B-Klasse 644 G Sat / Solar/Anhängerk./Markise
    [​IMG]

    DE - 56637 Plaidt
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    109 kW (148 PS)
    27,900 EUR
    69,100 km
    FR 07/2001
    Dealer




    HYMER / ERIBA Sehr gut erhaltener B 644 grüne Plakette
    [​IMG]

    DE - 50733 Köln
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    HU 12/2015
    90 kW (122 PS)
    28,000 EUR
    120,501 km
    FR 03/1999
    Private




    HYMER / ERIBA B 644 TOP ZUSTAND
    [​IMG]

    DE - 85290 Geisenfeld
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    New HU
    94 kW (128 PS)
    29,900 EUR
    90,000 km
    FR 03/2001
    Dealer




    HYMER / ERIBA B644G Automatik Auf Fiat
    [​IMG]

    DE - 73312 Geislingen
    Integrated / Used vehicle
    HU 05/2016
    93 kW (126 PS)
    33,500 EUR
    92,500 km
    FR 05/2002
    Private
     
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    You've probably demonstrated that after 15 years, residual values level out across Europe.

    I suppose that also demonstrates that European buyers lose less money buying and selling their vans (new cost cheaper - 15 year residual value similar)
     
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    Here's a little British company - http://www.campervans4u.com/directsource.html - that will source a van for you, do all the importing etc and, they say, save you a couple of grand.
    We got our motorhome from a similar importer in Deepcar (now not trading anymore) but we weren't looking for cheaper, just a van that you don't find many of over here, a Westfalia James Cook.
     
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    Here you go.
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    Keep a seat for me, please.
    Ta

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    When you are spending this sort of money is a couple of grand much to not have to traipse around Germany to find and fetch one when you can get one down the road with a uk warranty.
     
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    I think that's a good point, and given the difference in prices on fifteen year old vehicles isn't huge then the attractions of a local warranty are fairly significant.

    However, one Funster I have heard of seems to have done very well buying MHs in Germany and bringing them back here to sell on at a profit after a year or so of use.

    Which suggests if you are very good at finding bargains then Germany is probably a good place to look. But for folk like me who pays too much for a bag of sweets at the corner shop this route probably isn't the best one.
     
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    As a community service - update your avatar to read "Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land". That's obviously where you are if you think Eddie will limit response to a sentence!:eek::whistle::p:giggle:
     
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    Well that's very nice to know. I hadn't looked at second-hand prices in Germany, but buying new in Germany is certainly considerably cheaper and - in spite of what many people might fear - not at all difficult or fraught with hassle.

    There's no way we would have been prepared to fork out the amounts of money demanded for a brand new Hymer in the UK. What this thread seems to suggest, is that should ever decide to trade in our current van in Germany, we might get an amount approaching that which we would get for it in this country, but against a new vehicle with a much lower price! Good to know! I hope I'm right!:)
     
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    Spot on.....much younger family's can afford vans in mainland Europe. Our market a disgrace....

    I have advertised vans here in winter, had no interest and ended up PX'ing in Germany..ended up with same price as I was advertising it for here...

    edit: forgot...... hows about 10,000 lashes and 400 years sound?
     
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    I am not sure if you are being rude and offensive or simply tongue in cheek, please will you explain? (because it does offend me:mad:)

    I know Eddie and he will know the humour in my post, this is why I tagged him
     
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    For us newbies buying from Europe was not really an option.. It was bad enough deciding what we wanted let alone traipsing round Germany trying to decide if we were paying bargain prices or not...
    OK we may have ended up spending a bit more than we did but I didn't want a LHD vehicle Or the pain of buying abroad when or if things go wrong.
    I think its fair to say as vehicles get older the chances of problems get higher so surely this has to be factored in ?
    If buying a near new van the risk should be lower so maybe an easier prospect ?
     
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    I thought it was a bargain& about 5 or 6 k under priced when you obtained it.(y)
    Friend of mine his son has just shifted a compass ,1994 at 18k .
     
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    A bit?:LOL:

    its no different them buying here if new..I've probably saved over £100K over the years ( 9 vans 25 years?)

    Go to a show, ID the van, look around, get talking. transfer money pick it up. drive back, register it...Simples:)

    I looked at one of the vans mentioned earlier and its £50k cheaper in Germany...
     
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    I'm not sure how this relates but some years ago it became popular to import super bikes into the UK from Europe. Mostly it was simply to save money. But come time to sell on or trade in the bikes were very unpopular with many UK franchised dealers refusing to buy or take the machines in part exchange.

    The idea of doing it fizzled out with buyers returning to buying back here in the UK.

    Insurance on the machines was more expensive. Only real differences between a UK supplied machine and one from Europe was the direction of the headlight.

    Yet still they were cheaper and still few wanted to buy them after a time.

    For me it would be the LHD that would be the killer. Those that own them say this makes no odds but they would .

    I suppose it must be possible to buy a RHD one from Europe but still it would be classed as an import so that would dictate the value moving forward .

    Me ? Well like everyone I want to pay less but I also want to know my money is reasonably safe.
     
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