Implications Of Going Over 3500kg

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  1. stevec

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    In our search for a next van to tick as many boxes as possible, we found one locally which seems to tick more than most. However it has a low payload of 345kg. The dealer has said the 3500kg max weight can be uprated to 3650 with no issues. What will this mean as far as restrictions are concerned apart from the licensing issues. This is for a Pilote P680 LPR. Breakdown cover? Speeds? Places I can't go?
     
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    Speed - no.
    Places you can't go - you may find the odd bridge with a 3.5t limit but nothing else should affect you. I believe that in France the 3.5t signs you see in a lot of villages are aimed at goods vehicles not camping cars.
    Road tax - cheaper
    Breakdown cover - depends who you are with at the moment but worst case is that you may need to change providers

    What chassis is it on? It may be worth talking to someone like SVTech to see if it can go higher than 3650. If you're going to do it you may as well go as high as you can.
     
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    By going over 3,500 you will be subject to the lower national speed limits, ie 50mph on a single carriageway, 60 on a dual carriageway, and motorways are the same at 70mph. That is the only effect on speed, don't forget that the vehicle tax goes down to £165.
     
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    That's incorrect actually. There is a weight point where the speed limits for motor caravans change but it's not 3.5t. It's 3.05t unladen.

    https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
     
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    So therefore, the van in question is limited to 50 and 60 mph whether it's upgraded or not.
    Gross weights apply to speed limits in the EU generally however.
     
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    my wife says the bigger it is the more you can take ...
     
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    I realised that after I had posted (y) I would imagine the vast majority of motorhomes are.

    In France I stick to the lower one anyway. 130 is a bit much for the MH (y)
     
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    There's also the license issue too...
    I think it's the C1 category, which you get from grandfather rights if you passed your test before 1997, that allows over 3500kg
     
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    I agree, but it always seems silly to me to use "unladen" weight.

    And what exactly does that mean with a motorhome? Is it the weight the chassis unit was when it left Fiat? Or the weight when it left the converters? If it is the latter then the lower speed limit already applies to the OP's motorhome and all the others on a 3500kg GVW chassis with a payload less than 450kg.
     
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    In my case I've stuck with 3.5 because my wife has no C1 on her licence.
    Truth is she will never drive it unless something prevents me from doing so, but at least she has the option.
     
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    only if your under 70. If you are over you have to apply separately for the higher weight. If your are diabetic or some other illness you will be required to get a doctor's certificate, if tablet controlled. If you have to inject ,it's possible they may refuse the licence
     
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    In Europe as well? As I see speed/weight restrictions everywhere I go...not to mention toll costs.
     
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    If you are tempted by a 3500kg max van with 345kg payload or any figure come to that, just be careful that this si not a figure for basic van from the factory and it has not all been used up with optional extras, solar,extra battery,sat dish etc etc.

    Martin
     
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    Just don't go to Norway ;)
     
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    Sorry, why not Norway ?
     
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    As Funflair above, size only matters when your too small. Payload problems are far greater than size. We have only ever been turned away from 2 sites because of size in 5 years.
    Driving a large van feels the same as 5,6,7 mtr vans.
    Phil
     
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    really?.........wanna race?:D
     
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    Only if I can drive the motorbike thats in the back of the van.
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    Norway has many toll roads, ferries and tunnels. In nearly every case the price for under 3.5t (and under 6m) is the same as a car.............. over this and the price can double, treble or more :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    West Kilbride it is then.
     
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