Headlights conundrum

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  1. debdabble

    debdabble Read Only Funster

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    We own a Hymer b544, 2003 production. It's a LHD which was just what we were after as soon we are planning to spend a fair amount of time in Europe.
    This vehicle though has it's headlights set for RHD.
    We thought beam benders would be the answer to this but after making the mistake of buying some we discovered that they won't work on our light set up.
    I have checked out Amazon and e-bay sites but I can't find any Eurolites that work on this particular layout ; everything is for RHD with RHD lights or LHD with LHD lights.
    We never imagined this light set up would be a problem, but appears it is and we are now thinking that the best way around this would be to have the lights reset to LHD and then use beam benders when we are back in this country.
    Any advice would be welcome. We are planning to travel through France, Spain and into Portugal early December time. We are busy getting everything sorted out and although an unexpected problem on what is otherwise a great motorhome we will get it sorted. We certainly don't want to get pulled over for something illegal on the van.

    Kind regards

    Debbie and John
     
  2. Bellini

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    Sorry, but I don't understand.

    You have LHD lights 'set' to RHD? How? Have your lights been moved somehow in their fittings?

    If the above is correct, then I'd have thought your 'reset' option seems the most prudent. Then go for the beam benders as per normal.
     
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    If you reset your lights to LHD you would have to have them reset once again to RHD for the vehicle to pass MOT, also I think it would be illegal to have beam benders fitted if your vehicle is UK licensed and was being used here in the UK, of course I could be totally wrong on both counts. :Eeek:
     
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    If you have up & down adjustment-set them further down.
     
  5. tonka

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    No I dont think it is..
    On my previous van I went for MOT and rushed out before they started as I realised I had left the stick on beam bender things.. Not a problem said the tester..
    It passed 3 MOT's in total and the benders were never taken off..

    Remember you have all these trucks coming over from the continent, I bet none of them have ever adjusted their headlight or got fined.. :Doh:
     
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    Hi look on here

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    or join Hymer club club

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  7. cronkle

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    This is from the MOT testers manual:
    Masks or converter kits may be fitted to right hand dip headlamps to temporarily alter the lamp for use in the UK by removing the beam ‘kick-up’ to the right
    .
    A headlamp altered in this way is not a reason for rejection, if:
    a.
    the headlamp aim is not rejected for the reasons listed under diagram 1 (except that the top of the beam image will be a straight line)

    b.
    the light output is not unduly reduced - not usually a problem with commercially produced kits

    c.
    the mask or converter is securely attached.

    The original is here: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm

    I hope that helps.
     
  8. JockandRita

    JockandRita Funster Life Member

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    Hi Debbie & John,

    It's normally a bloody knuckle and skin grafting job to get to the back of these lights to adjust the beams, by locating 3 x cross head screws at the rear of each lamp. Invariably the screw heads become rounded off. :Sad:
    Peter Hambilton of Friendly Hippo fame, can do a modification, which allows the beams to be altered, just by reaching in and rotating each lamp by a few degrees right or left, as required. I do it every time we cross the channel and back again.

    Using the remote height adjustment control from the cab, to lower the beams is fine, however, the bellows are known to perish over time, thereby knocking that idea on the head. :Sad:

    HTH,

    Jock.
     
  9. SIFTA SAM

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    My understanding is that the lights on this model have a (DIY) mechanical adjustment at the back of each fitting. I have never done this, but it seems that a couple of screws are loosened, the fitting revolved for either RHD or LHD, and then the screws re-tightened.
    Will attempt to get a bit more detailed info, possibly from the HCI.
     
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    Any Use? (Copy from HCI Forum)

    , A few years ago when having a service done by Hymer UK I
    mentioned the headlight beam angle. They printed off a copy of a
    diagram showing a rear view of the headlight cluster. If my memory
    serves we right on the back of the head light are two cross- head
    screws that when released allows the headlight to be turned to adjust
    the beam angle. The screws are then tightened. The problem is
    there's not too much room behind the light to get at the two screws
    and you'll most likely require a mirror to see what your doing. If
    you should accidently unscrew a screw too far and it comes right out
    you may have a problem getting it back in - hence my suggestion to you
    to contact Essayanjay in Poole. However, I suppose if you take the
    lights out you could do the mods yourself. I believe they replace the
    two screws either side with something more user friendly that
    protrudes out of the back of the lights that allows you to undo/
    tighten them by hand.
     
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  11. debdabble

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    Thanks for your replies. I have to admit it seems a strange headlight set-up. We have always avoided driving anywhere in the dark as we assumed they were set LHD and we didn't want to dazzle anyone as we hadn't purchased any beam benders until recently. It was only when we asked a local garage who were familiar with motorhomes to advise us on the positioning of the beam benders whilst we were having a full service done on it we discovered the lights were set to RHD.
    He did say that if we had LHD lights and used beam benders in this country he would pass it at MOT. He also warned us we would not want to be pulled over in Europe for something like this as they can be very tough on offenders.

    Thanks again
     
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    Beam benders only block the light going up and to the left of beam, the part that is used to illuminate pedestrians and road signs on your left!
    Park in front of a garage at night with your headlights on. You should see a flat line with an angle up on the left, bright below, dark above a bit like this........... \___ \___ .You need to mask the bit on the left that goes up. Experiment with a square of paper, moving it over the beam till the bright part to the left goes. This is where you stick your beam benders, or black tape, or piece of gaffa tape
    Try a search on google ( other inferior search engines are available) and you should get some diagrams and a better description of what to do
    Allan
     
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