E&P Levelling System

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  1. rrusty

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    Hi, has anyone got this fitted and could give a review please.
     
  2. Mel

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    Good morning,

    I dont have one

    But last week I was in a Dutch
    Motorhome in Germany he had this, Fantastic!

    Not only Levels if you need to drain tanks you can overide the auto function and tilt it.

    It is a Dutch company might me cheaper to have a holiday in Holland and fit it there.

    It is now a factory option on some German Motorhomes.

    Not cheap

    Mel
     
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    Goldschmidt Hubstutzen

    Hi,

    Yesterday I had the Goldschmidt Hydraulic Levellers fitted so too early to give a full evaluation but I would not have fitted them had I not thought they were fantastic. After two vans without them I knew it was a must have for this one! Had the front wheels 5cm off the ground yesterday trying different options! Bit surreal actually. But the stability when they are lowered is an additional factor. Having said that, the rams are fitted almost in line with the chassis (Iveco Daily 6ton chassis) so are not as wide spread as the wheels are. Therefore the stability is limited by the narrower stance. All the same, absolutely stable enough. I think with an Alko chassis the stance would be wider and therefore even more stable say in a hard wind.

    Operation is so simple and quick. I think one downside could be that if there was ever a need to climb and exit a pavement you would have to be very careful that as you dropped down off the pavement the rams didn't hit it. Something I considered but decided was such a rare event not to worry about it. If your van is a low one then you can get the drop down rams from Goldschmidt with which this problem would be much less.

    I'm a freaky 'leveller' guy so for me, the van has to be perfectly level every time. The hours I've spent levelling the van in the past with those yellow ramps doesn't bear thinking about. Great entertainment for others but not for my blood pressure. Now, the once dreaded moving to empty a tank or fill up with water or just nipping away in the van will be a breeze. Spending so long to get the van level meant I was always reluctant to move again for any reason!

    They are expensive but if you won't miss the money, why not? And, you can have them taken off and put on your next van also. Nuff said.

    Regards

    Jeff
     
  4. ericonabike

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    Not quite nuff said Jeff! Mrs ericonabike shares your distaste of slopes [me, I can sleep on a kiddy's slide if need be] but we have yet to decide if this is our 'forever van'. Knowing that you can transfer the system to another van puts a whole new light on it! Could you give us a clue as to initial cost of fitting and the ease/cost of transfer? Much obliged.
     
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    They look very good, though I must admit to never bothering much about levelling, as long as things don't slide off the table thats level enough for me.:Smile:
     
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    Most American RV's have been fitted with leveling jacks, at manufacture, for years. :Rofl1: :Rofl1: :Rofl1: :Rofl1:
     
  7. hilldweller

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    But maybe not for your fridge.

    The weight would bother me. Every kilo counts in a MH.
     
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    We like level too LOL

    As we sleep crosswise in the overcab, never want the head end to be down for starters. Awful that is.

    Dead easy to tell when ours isn't, bathroom door is on the side and if you open the door and it moves either way then it just ain't flat. Can't bear it if it bangs back against the wardrobe door, always worried the doorknob will mark the woodgrain on the MDF.

    We have a spirit level kept handy and as soon as we're parked, out it comes, got quite adept at judging how many steps we need to go up each side and whether front or rear by reading the bubbles LOL :Laughing:
     
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    me also .. 45 to 65kg weight of the standard leveling system ..

    but on the plus side, the wallet would be lighter .. from £4,400 to £5,200, including fitting and VAT
     
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    Yes we have the E&P sytem fitted on our Concorde. Excellent bit of kit. :thumb:
    Good for emptying waste and you dont need a jack to get the wheels off.

    Ideally you need a big payload in the first instance to offset the additional weight of the E&P System.

    They now have agents in the UK by the way
     
  11. rrusty

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    I got the E&P fitted in November and have not really tried them out yet, yes I agree about payload but I have got 1200kg
     
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    Is that including the MH ?
     
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    now that i find hard to believe in a euro motorhome.
    whats the base vehicle???
     
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    the link you show Jim is for a single axle version not a tag like the op has.

    and with all the goodies he has fitted i very much doubt that it will come in under 4500kg without people in it.

    Alde warm water heating
    Engine heat exchanger with preheating unit
    Air conditioning drivers cab
    Airbag driver & passenger
    Comfort-matic gearbox
    3.0 litres
    Cruise control
    Alloys for heavy tandem axle
    Front & back suspension incl automatic levelling for 3 axle
    Exterior mirror with wide angle electrically adjusted and heated
    Additional window near rear bed
    Thermostat controlled fresh air fan above kitchen
    Electrically driven front visors/ sun shutters
    Awning 4.5 metres
    Fly screen door
    Leather upholstery
    Lateral flap on garage drivers side.
    Mirror on bathroom door
    Storage box system in the double floor
    Telescopic ladder
    Carpets
    Tie system in garage
    Air conditioning on the roof
    Satellite system
    70 A combi charger with 1600 watt inverter
    Outside shower
    BBQ point on outside
    Truma secumotion gas flow control incl Duomatic
    Tec tower incl oven
    Froli bed system
    Elevating/folding roof Seitz above living area
    Radio pre-installation sound system
    Navigation system incl tuner, DVD, blue tooth and rear view camera
    TV set behind seat pop up
    Towing attachment
    Thatcham cat 1 alarm system
    Thatcham TQA tracking system
    Spare wheel
    Microwave
    Submersible water fill pump
    3rd gel battery for cabin 80 Ah
     
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    The Concorde is on Merc 616 - 5990 kgs, with a towed mass of 6740kgs and axle loadings of front 2100kgs and rear 4360kgs
     
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    i hope you are not thinking that the towed mass counts as payload ken
     
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    ah.. my mistake.. I just looked at the model number..
     
  19. rrusty

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    Rear 2 x 1500 Front 2000 = 5000
    Last year in full touring mode with full tanks and 2 people on board = 4700
     
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    No not at all Andy :Laughing:
     
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