Camos flat dish - difficult to align?

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  1. Dai Motorhome

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    Hi All,
    i'm looking at a flat dish for mainly the UK, and the flat dish from Camos seems to fit the bill. I've read somewhere that they can be difficult to align? Does anyone have any experience they can share?
    thanks
    David
     
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    We have had the Planer Plus for about four years now, and its easy to setup and align, and we have used it in France, and Spain (limited reception).

    You should not have any difficulty using it in the UK.

    We think it offers good value for money,:thumb:

     
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    We have used a Camos Flat dish with it's manual crank up for nearly 4 years and it has provided excellent results. It was fitted by Dave Newell (http://www.davenewell.co.uk)

    Like anything, it takes a bit of practice. On the rotating dial, it gives you a range for the main satellites, I put a bit of masking tape on the dial to mark where Astra normally is in the sector, just gives me something to aim at.

    The key is being able to locate north, I use an old Silva compass, smartphone apps are good. Turn the dial to point to north, crank up and turn to where you think the satellite should be according to the dial. Put the TV onto something like BBC2 and adjust until you get a picture. With practice, it takes under a minute.

    We have used it around Europe and normally got a good signal.

    :Smile:
     
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    I bought and fitted the Camos plus some time ago and have nothing but praise for it. Bragging apart; set up in under 2 mins. no need for meter, the dish locks on so fast that it is simplicity itself to rotate to acquire a signal. Away this weekend at GT Yarmouth, very windy and no loss of signal what so ever.
     
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    camos

    thanks for all the replies. schojack, was it difficult to install?
    cheers
    David
     
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    Fitted mine when they first came out (can't remember when) and it was a doddle.
    I have always got a signal with ease even in SW Europe.
    My only gripe with it is there is no way to skew the LNB, but that is only important if you intend to use in difficult reception areas like SW Europe where the skew angle is over 30 deg.
     
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    To be fair people who have owned any manual system is going to say they are a dream, otherwise they's be sold or in the bin.

    On all manual set ups be it fixed or free standing there is a learning curve, and once mastered you could get a signal from a dustbin lid with a LNB attached

    understand what you are doing it only takes a little patience and within minuets you will be locked on

    with no understanding and no patience get an auto system, but they too have their faults:RollEyes:

    One of the commonest mistakes is getting used to the position on the dial where you usually get a signal, after 4 hrs of swearing you realise or maybe not:Doh: that your van is on a 10 degree slope so thats all your calibrations 10 degrees out before you start,

    All the dials and gauges in the world are only indicators of where a signal should be, understanding is the only secret and you cant buy experiance:thumb::Wink:
     
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    Is there much practical difference between the sat and the sat plus other than the prospect of getting a better signal further south? Is the standard flat dish going to be ok say in France, or would you need the plus version?
     
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    I don't know the difference but mine is a standard one and the very south of France is difficult to get all channels. Clearly the further north you go the better it gets.

    With all the changes being made this year it can no longer be assumed next time will be the same. New satellites have been launched and the channels are being moved, with what effect we have yet to find out.
     
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    Keith,
    Like you we have one and always get a signal with ease even in SW Europe.
    We bought the one with the option to skew the LNB not that I have tried to yet
     
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    I have never had to adjust our "Plus" model in France, but ib Spain, yes, to its max. The last time we were there, our friends on the next pitch, had bought a Chamos at the market, taped it to a piece of scaffold pole, mounted it in front of his rig, the skew was around 45 *, and got a good reception. Ours on the roof, adjusted to its max, provided us with a limited selection from the UK.
     
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    This year may open a whole new can of worms, I hope not but all the signs point to it.
     
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    Hi,

    basic DIY skills and a bit of bottle that's all.

    Important things are:
    siting, I positioned mine so that it can rotate fully but is accessable through my roof light for maintenance and adjustment. The dish can be skewed to the necessary settings even though it is on the roof.

    Cutting the adjustment shaft - needs checking and for me double checking. I even chickened out and cut it too long to start with and then nibbled at the thing. There's actually quite a good leeway.

    Routing of the cable, I used self adhesive cable tie pads(ebay) and secured the cable with cable ties. This makes for easier cleaning under the cable also. Routed down through the roof into the cupboard above the TV and receiver. Be aware that some manufacturers run cabling through the roof so take care not drill into these. Le3ave a little extra cable as you may, as I did, want to reposition your receiver.

    Plenty of sikaflex 512 and I have nothing but good reviews of my system.

    Yes, a great deal is down to experience, practice and patience but 9 cranks to lift, a good compass reading, setting the dial to North and astra 2 is slap bang in the middle of the designated zone on the dial.

    Someone says a minute :thumb:, absolutely! I had to find the remote hence 2 mins. :Wink:
     
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    Camos satellite

    Our Camos dish has caused more agro in our van than anything else. Perhaps it is a faulty one but John finds it frustrating trying to pick up a signal even in UK. Trying to justify the expense of buying an Oyster or similar.
    Elizabeth :Angry:
     
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    Elizabeth - no comfort to you, but i hope you are the exception!:Smile:

    David
     
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    Hi,

    hope this may help and apologies, no intention to tell gran how to suck eggs.

    Ensure that MH is level.
    I have my dish skewed at 9 degrees, make sure you go the right way when setting this.
    From closed position, 9 rotations to lift.
    Compass reading to identify North. Be aware of things thast may affect the accuracy of the compass reading in the MH.
    Set disc to North
    Switch on both tv and receiver
    rotate dish to middle of the astra red quadrant.
    rotate the dish clockwise/anticlockwise in steps of 5mm or so until you get a lock

    Works every time for me.:thumb:

    Good Luck

    Jack
     
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    Thanks for all the suggestions but John says he has tried all this. Jaws helped him at the Cotton Arms and he did get a signal. Up to then the only programmes we managed to get this year were on Astra 1 and most were foreign except for BBC World. We did not choose this system, it was on the van when we bought it.
    Elizabeth :Angry:
     
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    Well , I got myself a 'used' Camos and fitted it yesterday. All went pretty well although I struggled connecting the dish to the arm, (which I thought would be the easy bit!).
    Am i right in thinking that the only thing restraining the spring under the winding handle is the screw that tightens on the central rod? Seems strange to have something held like this when it's under constant pressure from the spring?
    Thanks again for all the help!
     
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    Now 6 years since I installed mine & still OK, so I don't see a problem with it. :thumb:
     
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    If it lasts six years I'll be happy !:Smile:
     
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