calling @puddleduck or anyone else who can help please

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  1. movan

    movan Funster Life Member

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    Hi @Puddleduck , so sorry to trouble you and for the delay in writing this but circumstances at home are making it impossible for me to be on the computer or phone much .... but you recently said that there is a way to jump start my van, possibly, without me having to 'unearth' my battery inside the van on the floor.

    I have searched my engine for the contacts but cannot find them.. below are the photos of my engine can you point me to the contact points please, and also give me any idea how to do the jump starting... I seem to remember from years ago that when I put the grippers on the contact points I mustn't touch metal .. or else .. but how do you do that?

    There is one photo which simply shows where the mice have tried to eat the fuzzy material lining the engine. :( Thank you so much... :)
     

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    Don't know your van but would say the red thing is what you are after, red lead on that , black lead on some solid metal on the engine.
    Don't take this as gospel but that's what it looks like to me(y):)
     
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  3. movan

    movan Funster Life Member

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    Thank you.... do you mean ANYWHERE ON THE ENGINE with the black lead? Will I not get a shock?

    Also, once the engine starts which lead do I remove first please, or does it not matter... I have visions of going up in a blue light..

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    I agree. The red cover looks like it has a + on it.
     
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    No shock:)
     
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    Not unless you are holding onto the crocodile clips. Look for the head of a bolt into the chassis for the black lead.

    When you connect them connect both ends of the black one first then connect the red.

    When you remove them reverse it so remove both ends of the red one first.
     
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    You won't get a shock whatever you hold , it's only twelve volts , no different than touching both sides of your battery, you might get a spark or it might get hot but NO shock.
     
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    agree.. red cover has pos terminal.. black to any solid part of the engine..

    connect pos (red) first

    disconnect neg (black)last

    and in more detail from Halfords

    How to jump-start a car using jump leads
    • Park both cars in neutral next to each other so that they're close but not touching. Open the bonnet; the jump lead should be able to reach both vehicles.
    • Connect the first end of the RED positive lead to the positive terminal on the working battery. Do the same for the other end of the lead for the flat battery.
    • Connect the BLACK negative lead to the negative terminal on the working battery. Attach the other end to a metal (earthing) point, such as a bolt or bracket, away from the dead battery. Some cars have negative jump-starting poles - check your handbook to see if yours does.
    • Check the leads are away from moving parts then start the engine of the working car.
    • After about a minute, try starting the car with the dead battery. If it doesn't work, leave it a little longer, but switch off the engine if the leads get hot.
    • Once you have your car running, leave the engine on for a couple of minutes to charge the battery.
    • Remove the jump leads in reverse to the way you attached them. Make sure they don’t touch together or any metal surfaces. You should then drive for at least 30 minutes or leave the engine running.
    • If you can't get the engine to start, unfortunately you have a bigger problem! At Halfords we offer a free check-up, cheap fitting service and a massive range of affordable batteries!
     
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    I'm not sure about the red thing. No need to rush so be careful! You need to slide the top up and see what is under it. If it is a bare stud or connection and the other end of it is connected to a thick red lead then it is. Anything else then it may not be.
     
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    You might get a tingle if you're holding them when the engine cranks. There are some pretty high currents around then.

    You can definitely get a belt from 12V. It probably won't kill you but you will still know about it.
     
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    Sorry, and please don't be offended but that's completely wrong. Not a chance of a shock from 12 volts. :)
     
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    movan Funster Life Member

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    Thanks Jim.. That's brilliant...

    Bit confused as Halfords say connect the RED first and the other posters say the black .. or am I reading it incorrectly? :(
     
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    Ever put the terminals of one of those little square 9V batteries on your tongue? (y)
     
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    Sorry, I should have been more specific. When using your hands....:)
     
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    red first is correct.. that's the problem with forums.. you can get conflicting advice. ..

     
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    ever tried to get your tongue across the terminals of a 12v leisure battery ?

    you cannot get a shock from 12vdc .. even if you had a 2 ft tongue
     
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    Sorry I have only just seen this - but glad you have answers Joy.
     
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    I am sure I have read that if both vehicles are touching when jump starting you can actually die from the shock :Eeek:

    Maybe it was a fore runner to the gassing threats, but I am convinced I have read that somewhere :)

    Don't mean to worry you Joy, but follow the instructions as above x
     
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    Sorry to have to disagree with this guy again , but getting a shock is absolute rubbish , the only chance of getting a shock on motors is if you have a petrol and grab a spark plug lead, with a diesel , jump starting, NO chance
     
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    was that in a porn mag ?:LOL:
     
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