A frame towing

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  1. jordano

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    i am a bit confused I have been informed repeatedly that I cannot use an a frame in Spain but I am here at the Lincoln show and have talked to six people who use one and have done for lots of time and never had a problem in Spain one even stopping to ask police for directions can I or can't I use a a frame will I or will not be stopped do I just take a chance does the declaration ofCE conformity make any difference ?
     
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    You would be taking a huge risk in Spain, better make sure there are two drivers
     
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    I must get some popcorn in this will be fun;)(y)(y)(y)(y):whistle:
     
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    Walk round the Fun site and ask about A Frames. (y)
     
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    The following has been copied from a Spanish police web site.


    Following frequent questions regarding the possibility of a motorhome towing a car, this possibility is prohibited in Article 9.3 of the Reglamento General de Vehículos whic prohibits the movement of a motor vehicle towing another, unless there is an immediate risk of damage or injury and it cannot be dragged by another specifically for that purpose, in which case it is allowed only to the nearest place where it will not hinder traffic movement and provided that it is not on a motorway.
     
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    And a wallet full of Euros.
     
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    And gassing.

    Why not ?
     
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    So I guess the people who have used one in Spain have just been lucky not to be stopped I've lady I talked to and is connected to the motorhome Chanel on TVs has used hers to pull a smart car to taraggona in Spain for the last 12 years
     
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    I don't tow a car now but I never took it to Spain when I used to tow , as Lynne does not drive if I was told to unhook it I would of been stuffed not forgetting the fine .

    I no people when they get to the Spanish border they unhook the car and drive the car to where they are going to in Spain.
     
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    Just talked to a guy called Ken Rose agent for Car-A-Tow that there product is classed as a trailer and conform to any Spanish legalities and will provide a translation of this fact
     
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    They have been very lucky not being stopped , fined and made to uncouple .
    I've heard the bragging before from the minority who think the rules do not apply to them .
    The Spanish do not tolerate them , end of .
    If a car is that important you can hire one for reasonable cost .
     
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    Ken Rose (I assume) will not be in the 'van when you get stopped, fined, told to unhitch and to go on your way.

    Unless you are comfortable with arguing with a Police Officer in Spain in Spanish and prepared to be arrested, get kept overnight for the next Magistrate (or similar) then ignore what well versed members on here will confirm, then fine,(no pun), buy this A frame at vast expense and carry on.
    If you have a ounce or metric equivalent of CS, buy a trailer and do not use an A Frame in Spain.
     
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    I would ask them for assurance that they will pay any fines incurred and any other costs if your stopped .
    The Traffico are not interested in any translation that you may show them but if you fancy arguing with them on the side of the road , rather you than me
     
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    Not worth the paper it's written on...Will he also pay your on the spot fine and recover your toad out of Spain if you are a sole driver.
    Of course he won't.

    A frames are illegal in Spain as above...end of.
    Germany and France are slowly heading the same way.
     
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    @jordano

    You've probably also come across people who regularly drive at 90mph or more on the motorway and never get stopped.

    Do you question whether speed limits are the law or do you think those people have just been very lucky?

    It's exactly the same question.
     
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    I believe they are illegal in Germany as well now.
     
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    "Any Spanish legalities"

    Hmmmm

    Smells like typical salesman BS to me.

    Ask him for the specific laws and exactly how his product complies.

    As has been said already whatever nonsense he cons you into believing won't get you anywhere when the Trafficos decide to fine you. You will be paying them if you want to continue your journey.
     
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    Get too gobby and it could be at gunpoint too !!!
     
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    I have had a house in Spain for over 12 years and I know that trying to tell a Spanish policeman that it allowed in the UK and that means it is allowed in Europe, is like trying to sell an ice cube in Iceland (the country) Forget it.

    AN "A" FRAME IS NOT......REPEAT, NOT LEGAL IN SPAIN!!

    Now, back to my beer :)
     
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